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You are a PSP owner, right? And like every good PSP owner, you ought to have loads and loads of UMDs (except if you have a Go) And now you want the Vita, like every other person who knows his way around gadgets.
But we all know that Sony did not install a UMD reader in the Vita and you want to play your UMDs on the Vita.
Well, here comes the good news, well, for the Japanese only or until Sony clears up the foggy details but you have to buy them again.
Allow me to enlighten you about UMD Passport, a PSN app for PSP which allows you to buy your UMDs from PSN...
It's a rather complicated procedure; apparently you first have to download the UMD Passport application from the PSN for the PSP. Then you register the UMD in the UMD drive to your PSN account, after which you log in to your PSN account from a Vita and from whence you buy the game from PSN for your Vita for a lower price...
Is it just me or do I hear grumblings about buying your already bought games again? And catch this, not all the games are on PSN, so there will only be some games available from your large collection...
Still, at least Sony is making an effort to please you.
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ps3's are getting hacked, bcuz they cant satisfy the customer without
screwing them over! who wants to buy the games they already bought? even
at a lower price, it is still a chance to rip ppl off! screw sony! 5.00
m33 and 3.55 rebug!
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Sony are under no obligation to provide you with a way to play your UMDS on the new PSP. You have no reason to not keep your current PSP, and don't try to pretend that the only reason you hacked it is because Sony are 'screwing the customer over'.
Sony have just offered a recourse for people who want to port their UMDs over. It's pricy, but then, it's not mandatory. Nor is it really necessary.
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Are you fucking serious? how the hell are these greedy bastards still in business? Basically your already bought UMD game is just a fucking coupon for a goddamn discount. that's it. Might as well just lowered the pricing on the fucking PSN versions and just left this added BS out.
@Sony - I'm gonna pirate every single game you will ever make. Why? Because of shit like this. You want people to buy your games? You know what to do.
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(of course if this can somehow be done probably using a hack)
i just mean iso support must exist
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whining bitching and wish sony to go out of business will still buy a
vita. I hate those kind of hypocrites. If u really hate sony, well it's
simple. Don't use or buy any of their stuff. As for me, sure i don't
like some of sony's policies including this one. But i never hate them
coz they bring great stuff to the market. Else, i won't have a psp, ps3,
god of war, killzone etc to enjoy. Hacking and pirating bcoz u hate
them is a cheap excuse. If u
don't like, don't use. Move along
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Sony didn't even have to add backwards compatibility but they did, so be thankful.
It's cheap assholes like you that ruin games for everyone.
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BUT this is a different platform, therefore your argument is invalid. Think of it this way:
The new HD Metal Gear Solid collection is on PS3. It's the same PS2 games I've already bought. Am I therefore entitled to the PS3 version for free?
Answer: NO
PSP and VITA are different platforms. So same rule applies.
Suck shit if you don't like it but Sony are in the right and you're just cheap assholes.
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Except that there is no PSVita version of the UMD, it is the original PSP version so there shouldn't be a reason to pay for the exact same game.
The new HD Metal Gear Solid collection is a different game compared to the original MGS games (such as how the original Mario Bros. game is different than the Super Mario All-Stars version).
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PSP Vita =/= PSP. Whole different ballgame, it's like PS2 to PS3.I own the Sly Cooper games on the PS2, is Sony required to give me a free copy of the Sly collection on the PS3? Same applies for God of War collection, MGS collection, Prince of Persia, etc. You seem to think the Vita is the PSP with a touchscreen, it's much more powerful than the PSP. Ehh, whatever, I have my Go with about 10 games loaded on it, CPS2PSP, Mah NeoGeo emulator, etc. Not giving that baby up when I get the Vita, so it won't hurt me. Why would it affect you if you have a PSP with umd games already?
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Alright different example.
I am fortunate enough to have a copy of Final Fantasy VIII on my playstation, 4 discs and everything. Am I therefore entitled to a copy of it on the psn to play on my ps3?
Not in the slightest bit.
You're paying for the service of porting and downloading it. It's not simply a matter of ripping the game to iso format and stuffing it onto the vita. There's a process behind it.
The only time when you cheapfags would have an argument is if sony wanted to charge you a second-time for digital purchases on psn for psp games you wish to play on your vita. Otherwise, they're in the right.
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I don't know who's who here so I'll just reply to your comment. I made the original reply to jappasomething up above
Anyway
"you are one stupid ass huh? sony shouldnt make us pay for what we
already own, we bought it once so we dont need to buy it again. When you
buy a psp, for example, you only pay once not twice unless you are
stupid enough to pay twice? and by the way that you are bitching, it
seems you would."
But you aren't paying twice for something you already own. You're paying for a digital version of a game you own a physical version of. Do you think that iTunes are also obliged to furnish you with a digital version of a CD you own?
"thanks Tacoguy123! this other fool is hella dumb, he willingly would
pay twice for a game, he's obviously sucking sony's cock. whata douche
bag, no balls.."
lol. Good retort there dude.
I own a hacked PSP and I rip most of my UMDs and PS1 games. But if Sony were to allow me to redownload all of my games for free then it would be open to all kinds of abuse. Only a fool would argue otherwise.
This attitude of entitlement among gamers is pathetic. It's childish, but going off most of the puerile insults here, it seems most users are actually children.
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The more the game industry evolves the more selfish everyone involve in it becomes, gamers and developers alike.
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compatible so your original copy would play if you stuck them in your
360 you didn't have to pay for them again. The downloadable versions
were for people who never owned them.
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Your iTunes example is somewhat misleading as Apple does not really produce physical media CDs (not including software).
I guess the main issue comes down to what is actually being paid for: whether it is the digital replica of a UMD game, or the service of uploading/confirming/downloading the UMD game to the Vita.
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Complaining about Sony being a dick? Then don't buy their products.
I just have to quote this previous comment, because it's nothing but the truth:
BUT this is a different platform, therefore your argument is invalid. Think of it this way:
The new HD Metal Gear Solid collection is on PS3. It's the same PS2 games I've already bought. Am I therefore entitled to the PS3 version for free?
Answer: NO
PSP and VITA are different platforms. So same rule applies.
Suck shit if you don't like it but Sony are in the right and you're just cheap assholes."
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Had the games been free, there would be so much abuse. What would stop me from going to GameStop, buying a handful of UMDs, downloading those games for free, then returning the UMDs as per GameStop's 7-day return policy on used games? If I chose to, I could visit several stores and get every game I want for absolutely free.
At first, I was also slightly annoyed to see them charging for games I already purchased. However, I see it this way: the Vita is a whole new console, not a new model of PSP. Though it would be nice, Sony is not obligated to give me backwards compatibility.
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I agree with this Quote:
"Yes it is theoretically a digital copy therefore you should be free to extract your legal physical copy's digital image and play it on your psp. No problems there."
I disagree with this Quote:
"BUT this is a different platform, therefore your argument is invalid. Think of it this way:
The new HD Metal Gear Solid collection is on PS3. It's the same PS2 games I've already bought. Am I therefore entitled to the PS3 version for free?
Answer: NO"
Why? Because HD Metal Gear Solid Collection is a Remake of the original PS2 and everyone knows that the people with the First Gen PS3 have backwards compatibil ity with any PS2 game. If you wanted to compare something you should have gone with Metal Gear Solid for PS and a Digital copy on PSN.
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Are you buying UMD because you're going to download it for VITA? Are you a retard?
You bought a UMD because you wanna play it for the PSP, not for the fucking VITA that is different from you're PSP console. Why don't you just play that UMD games for your PSP, cheat it if you want, rip it, upload a copy, masturbate with it and shut the fuck up!
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why would you need a ps3version when a ps3 can play the ps2 version anyway,,,
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Get EVERY psp game up on the PSN store... if you want the digital copy... MAIL the UMD back to them. Done deal.... yes you the customer pay shipping... thats the cost of going digital. If its worth it to you.... then good... if not ... keep the UMD. As for why I hacked my PSP? ... to play the old PSONE Games that were unavailable on PSN that I OWN! So yes it would be a big deal to make sure that EVERY game is available.
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you said it urself idoit "sony didnt have to make it backwards for psp games"
but guess what they did! so they should allow the games we bought to run without the need to pay again or they should ditch backwards and make the games psn only such as ps1 games on psn
what a idoit fanboy!!!
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as i recall the ps vita can play eboots for the psp so convert your iso games into eboots so the vita can play them
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It is amazing how stupid people can be. Yes it sucks that Sony wants to resell you a game you already own to play on an updated console. YOu have the psp that plays the game. When the music industry came out with the cd did you also feel you were owed a free cd to replace every album you owned on cassette?
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Don't matter i will still have my original PSP to play my PSP games who cares! I wouldn't buy them just to play on the Vita! Thats dumb!
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sony is by far only system that is easy to hack be happy that the psps are hackable or people can hack the sytems still to this day ps3 is sticky and they all use the psps to beef the ps3 security i still say they lure hackers to hack there sytems so they can fix any issues it is a tactical of miltitary or lure mouse in trap. yet in way it leaves us open to this free stuff. i bet there be way to hack this new vita and for a discount i dont mind discount atleast it better then xbox and nintendo they dont discount crap.
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sony is not stupid in my opinion they want u to hack them why else make such a gap on there system. in way it military tactic but worth it. make there system hackable then beef up fixin holes in there programs makin there firewall security stronger and stonger till hardly no one hacks. yet this is what they want when people do hack they can fix any isues.
now that they are near inpenetrable they themselves are learnin every trick every hacker used an nippin in butt. this is what sony does. game of cat mouse and trappin hacker mice in a big cat trap.
if they didnt want u hack there sytem they wouldnt made this tactic so obvius. in other way they will make some hole in there vita so people can hack it then fix it later.
they want to see how people will approach there hack on there new sytems.
what other company then sony will give a discount on games. nintendo and microsoft jack prices not lower for u buy it so be happy they are bein nice enough.
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If you look at most of the newer ps3s, they are no longer backward compatable to the ps2. They still play the ps1 titles though. I have 2 backward compatable ones but, the cd drives are bad. Got a new one and no more ps2 gaming. :(
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my psp is broken...i own a vita and have tonnes of umd at home any ideas i can get those D: i want to play DJ max 3 on my vita i still have my UMD but none of my friends have a non hacked psp to get the psn store working since its all hacked excepy my broken ones D:
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well that would only be true if the Vita version was a HD remix like the PS3's version there all re coded so they charge for it. If sony didnt remaster the code like the did with the ps3 version then there's no reason to charge the consumer twice.
They up'd the graphics on those remakes.
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the 3DS has backwards compatibility, lets you play your ds games (even though they look terrible) on the new 3DS so why is sony making "the good guys" in sony's eyes (non hackers) who actually own UMDs pay for them a SECOND TIME? What if you paid 5 bucks for the UMD at gamestop, but the 'discounted price' sony is selling them at on PSN is 10 dollars? That would in no way be even a discount!
Sony needs to cut the crap and stop making their systems non backwards compatible, because we all know this isnt the first system of theirs to do this ~cough, ps3 slim cannot play ps2 games!
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Everyone who's saying Sony is ripping you off.... How? I agree with you guys, it's bullshit, but you have the umd and a psp to play the game. They're not obligated to give you the game on vita. If you want to play just take out your psp. The movie and music business didn't give us free cd's and dvd's when we had the cassettes and tapes.
And let's be serious. Nobody hacked their systems because Sony was ripping people off. We hacked our psp's and ps3's for free stuff.
Side note: fuck dlc. I hope everyone pirates those. I'm more pissed about being sold half a game than them charging for a digital copy of a game.
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i dunno 'bout you but i bought the UMDs because i wanted the pre-order bonuses
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No. but if im getting the same exact version of a game that I already paid for, that's when it becomes a problem. I understand that its a different platform, however its not a different GAME. For the people who were hoping to upgrade it becomes a problem. Say, for instance, your psp is limited edition? Or if its broken and you were looking to replace it? The problem here is that it renders one form of media absolutely useless in the next gen market. And you've spent good money on the games. It would have made more sense just to make people pay extra on the vita for a UMD drive if they wanted one. I would do that. The issue is that it's a souped up psp that doesn't play psp games. Nintendo had it right when they had the 3DS be backwards compatible. It's also a different platform, and it still supports what came before it.
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so dont pay again, just keep ur game on psp and move on.
not reason to pay again, its an option, dont like the option, dont do it.
rare ill be digging out my psp once i have a vita, rare ill be wanting to use a psp game once i have a vita.ps2 n ps1 are collecting dust while ive got my ps3 active.
you reeeally want a psp collection on your vita? we are on dashhacks, your answere to your problem will come up here. quit whinging.
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While sony does not indeed hold the responsibility to do this, they are still assholes taking advantage of retards like you. The games that they can charge a customer twice for should be REMAKES and obviously refined versions of the old. If a customer has already bought a copy of a certain game, they can at least provide the customer with the ability to rip their versions of the game and transfer them to work on their psvitas. The matter of the fact is they will not, and in truth is what is hurting their vita sales. Customers that have a huge library of psp games are satisfied with it and do not see the worth of moving to the vita where it has no support for their old handheld unless they not only pay a ridiculous amount of money for the system and REQUIRED memory, and then REBUY only SOME of their titles on the PS store. I would happily pay for some kind of app or tool that lets me send a ripped copy of my UMD to my psvita but alas they do not do it, because in the end they just care about sucking as much money from their loyal fans as they are possibly able to. By the way, the psp did not fail because of homebrew OR piracy, it's just bullshit from their part in order to blame something for their crappy service and selection of games. The DS and Wii both have as much or MORE pirating being done and sell geometrically better than the Sony hardware. Sony is failing because they block innovation just to earn more millions, yes they have every right to do so because its their product, but that does not necessarily make it the right cause.
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read eula's much usually theres somthing in there bout not owning the game just lesing rights to use it. u leases a physical version with no included digital version, now u want the digital verson..u pay the slight markup fr the second coy kinda like some of the new blue ray movies. or if u don want the added feature of playing ure PSP tite on ure VITA keep ure psp..
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Okay, it's been said once but I'll go ahead and say it again. It's not like you're transfering your PSP games to the PSPGo, which is the same gaming system. You're buying a completely different system and expecting them to give you the games you own for free, when they had to go through all the hard work to port them. They've put their time and effort into converting them, you should just be happy they even did make it backwards compatible, it was totally their choice and they didn't have to do any of it. That's like buying a 3ds and expecting them to not only port over the games but to also give you your Wii games for free on it. Yes, they are two completely different systems, but so are the PS Vita and the PSP. Just be happy they even did this for you and stop being greedy little pirates. If it doesn't suit you, wait until it's hacked and risk going to jail over it. Or even bricking your system like the 3ds does when you mod it. Otherwise, be a big kid and deal with it.
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The ps2 had backwards compatibilty for psx games (yes kids it was a psx, ps1 was a revised model) ps3 also had backwards compatibility which was later deemed to costly and ps2 bc was pulled after the original 60gb then the 80gb model.
Umd was a failed venture and will never see the light of day again but the psp emulator exist inside vitas OS so it's Nothing to do with porting games over, they should offer some software to rip an eboot or iso file in the same way you can with custom firmwarewith a means of activating a disk so people cannot use a disc more than once.
The guy above talking about going to jail for hacking a device is nuts, I personally hacked my psps, Xbox, ps3, iphones and more and I am not serving time yet (no bricks either noob, use the readme)
Psp games SHOULD be free to owners of umd discs, its SONY'S penny pinching ways that means they won't be.
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hey i just figured something... why dont we sell our psp games, buy PSN points at gamestop with the credit then buy the titles on PSN?
anyway, remember the Vita has been out forever...soon there shall be a hack that allows us to play ISOs or CSOs on it..
personally I buy games then rip them to pc then sell to friends... amazingly i still have a large collection of DVD cases!
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It would be cool is they added a UMD adapter, so we can play PSP titles on Vita. It would probably be clunky. Unless they're gonna do the same thing they did with the PS3, and make backwards compatible release for future sales. Sounds like something sony would do.
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