Encrypt/Sign Anything PSP – Homebrew, Plugins, Custom Firmwares


Submitted by greg; January 02, 2011


If you've been following the PS3 scene you know team fail0verflow has crippled the PS3 security in its entirety, and with that geohot has shared the keys -- the keys that can be used to sign any 3rd party code, meaning custom firmwares and all types of homebrew are heading towards a PS3 near (or in) your entertainment cabinet. That in mind, with some other hacks, Mathieulh has revealed he is now able to sign anything PSP (he found the KIRK encryption/decryption keys) -- I'm talking EBOOTs, prxs, custom firmwares -- all signed and headed towards your PSP too. What does all this mean? Well now no hacks are needed for anything really... With these keys we're able to "sign" anything, and as far as the PSP/PS3 is concerned, it's official -- officially signed as if Sony themselves signed off on it. Pretty cool, huh? As pat_boy2008 says, shit just got real.



Tags: Decryption, Encryption, KIRK, Mathieulh, PSP Custom Firmware, PSP Exploits, PSP Hacks, PSP Homebrew, PSP Keys, PSP Plugins




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# Diggingforfire 2011-01-02 22:02
Oh good Lord. *squeals like a schoolgirl*

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# Jman11322 2011-01-02 22:03
Yesssssssss f***ing finally.

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# ak74-fu2 2011-01-02 22:04
Holy shit! The impossible just done happened!

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# pat_boy2008 2011-01-02 22:05
Whoa! S*** just got real!

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# Shit 2011-01-02 22:11
Great! Now we can "sign" a lot of shit and put these shit in our PSP.

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# Lune 2011-01-02 22:12
So What The Hell Does This Mean

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# tacticalbread 2011-01-02 22:16
It is possible to sign our own code, meaning we'll be able to run homebrew on any official or non-official firmware.

in other words, Sony just got fucked hard right in the ass.

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# pspkrazzy 2011-01-02 22:17
fuuuck yeahh, so what...this means we will soon have our psp's hacked to the max??

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# shgotreal 2011-01-02 22:18
I thinks this means you no longer need cfw or hbl for certain homebrew to be able to run, as any psp will see the code as something released straight from sony.

Kinda how datel's psp cheats functioned till 6.20

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# Aaron 2011-01-02 22:18
Right On. Now we can run any homebrew on any firmware if its patched.

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# MaX_SLayeR 2011-01-02 22:20
No firmware update is going to fix this :)

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# blindndumb 2011-01-02 22:25
Nice release...2011 got to b very special for psp users

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# Tipped OuT 2011-01-02 22:26
That's it. It's over. Only a matter of time before developers and hackers put this to use and we get homebrew... custom firmwares on both the PSP and PS3, regardless of the firmware.

Big head shot towards Sony.

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# Kyoukan 2011-01-02 22:30
What version will this work up to? Because, I have 6.20 on my 3002 but I can't access the PSN or PSS until I upgrade to the latest, which is 6.35 I think.

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# Lune 2011-01-02 22:31
You Think They Can Sign Iso's So They Can Run Straight from The XMB

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# Cheese 2011-01-02 22:33
The homebrew community has now shoved a 10ft cock up sony's ass. >_>

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# G0l3m 2011-01-02 22:35
Posting in epic moment.

All confirmed by the top devs of the scene :-) 2011 starts like a rocket

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# Tipped OuT 2011-01-02 22:37
@Kyoukan

This will work for any future and past firmwares.

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# Art 2011-01-02 22:43
It's a fucking late christmas miracle

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# TheLostProphet 2011-01-02 22:49
Sony just got double penetrated

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# david brooks 2011-01-02 22:50
fucking awesome............now amma really try and get my psp 3000 screen.................no one fucks around my psp 3000 now...........

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# Seven[GP]Luke 2011-01-02 22:51
Holy Shit!
Sony is in deep shit now.
Nice Work!

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# SquallDNA 2011-01-02 22:52
Are fucking kidding me?! Shit! Is this for real?!! Good Lord!!

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# SleepBoyGS 2011-01-02 22:54
SONY i got to tell you...thees guys are not joking,it's GMAEOVER for you

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# Psphackr 2011-01-02 22:54
what is this in the simplest form plz tell me?

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# totushi 2011-01-02 22:54
im new to all of this, but it seems to be starting great! XD if your a developer and need some GUI help... drop me a line... i will gladly help

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# sloshedtrain 2011-01-02 22:55
And I thought the homebrew scene was doomed =)

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# Cross 2011-01-02 22:58
After so many years, it's happened. I think I'm crying manly tears of manliness and joy.

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# Alex 2011-01-02 23:00
what is it?

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# Jman11322 2011-01-02 23:00
It means that we wont need to install cfw on our psps to run homebrew because we can just sign it.

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# Jman11322 2011-01-02 23:01
I think (and hope) so because it would basically treat it like a game you bought from psn.

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# Jyoumon22 2011-01-02 23:04
go ahead and cry for joy because i would be kool to hack my PS3 W/O that stupid usb stick

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# MR. BIG 2011-01-02 23:04
fuck sony so by when will like this b released?

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# Nick 2011-01-02 23:07
Homebrew for ever

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# Swugly 2011-01-02 23:07
This saddens me...

I'm all for moderated cheating the system (like playing UMD-only games on our PSP GOs), but I can't help but feel sorry for Sony as people will go on to cheat and steal everything from them from now on...

I hate to see Sony go down because of this...

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# Crossed 2011-01-02 23:09
Sweet! Waited about 6 years for this!

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# AZNSNSAZN 2011-01-02 23:09
it means that anything that is custom(homebrew ed) can be signed and then b played on an ofw without having to go to hbl or cfw to do so which equals a lot less steps! to do iin the end

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# Sunglasses 2011-01-02 23:13
Possible Jokes:

1) Pose as a scene, this shit just got real.
2) Any double penetration jokes
3) And "Signed" puns.

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# Croimos14 2011-01-02 23:16
You dun goofed Sony...YAH DUN GOOFED!!! What a bad way to go down. I can already see developers completely removing their investments in the system and switching over to Xbawks and Wii.

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# Lukmega 2011-01-02 23:16
Ow GOD.Dark Ages aproch, we don't need push up the Sony with this kind of stuff, we need play good, a clean figth, not that, that is play dirty

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# kev 2011-01-02 23:16
when will his stuff be available to download? i've just got a psp. not brand new, was a used one but the firmware is up to date so i can't do anything with it yet and i dont like any of the modern games (except football manager). basically i wanna know when i can download an emulator and use it in a couple of clicks :)

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# SquallDNA 2011-01-02 23:18
probably no bricks too right?..

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# cray0000 2011-01-02 23:28
I thing it will make possible to upgrade from ofw to cfw on any psp and firmware. Couse psp will think of it like it's official and delivired by Sony.

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# Nightmare-Rex 2011-01-02 23:29
I think CFW will still have a use: olugins/ dynamic themes and stuff like that.

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# Tim 2011-01-02 23:29
Tomorrows gonna be a good day.

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# peter 2011-01-02 23:31
skeet skeet skeett!!!!!! lol

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# A random kid 2011-01-02 23:34
Man Id hate to be the dumb fuck that works(ed) at Sony software design. A random number is suppose to random not a single same number every time. All because one person goofed Sony is GAME OVER. In the psp/ps3 department.

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# Bruno 2011-01-02 23:47
Ok, now sony got REALLY F*KED UP. This is for real now, there's no coming back, none new FW can fix this for Sony.

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# Schadrach 2011-01-02 23:48
You're missing something. For asymmetric encryption signing, you have to have a known decryption key to verify the signature, or a verifiable third party whom you trust to validate the signature. The latter is wide open to MitM attacks, the former is what most home systems trying to be secure from their users actually do. What we've seen today in the PSP and PS3 worlds is the equivalent of the deCSS key being released.

They're basically screwed at Sony. All games released have to be signed with keys that can be decrypted by the keys in the system, so they need a firmware upgrade to get around us having the keys, except that said firmware upgrade has to be signed with those very same keys for our PSP/PS3 to install it in the first place, meaning we can decrypt it and pull the news keys out of it.

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# omfg this is baddd 2011-01-02 23:50
people think about this... if this is released, sony will make absolutely no money on all current psp systems (1000,2000,3000,N1000) until the psp2. they will go down hard for this. this discovery could potentially end the original systems for good. piracy will skyrocket to 110%! game companies will go bankrupt. this is terrible. the entire sony gaming department will completely fall apart!

but think about the upside. this will definitely force a PSP2 and PS4!!!

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# PSP_Sinner 2011-01-02 23:53
LOL peeps, is it just me or does this look like the new custom firmware is our new ability to customize official firmware. Things just keep getting better and better first TN now team fail0verflow.

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# who cares 2011-01-02 23:54
I have two words for you. Who and cares.

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# who cares 2011-01-02 23:55
@omfg this is baddd btw

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# PSP_Sinner 2011-01-02 23:56
Go Mathieulh!!!!!

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# Zetsu 2011-01-02 23:58
Score over 9000 for the scene. Sony can blame themselves for this entirely. The development VTEC just kicked in, yo!

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# 5.00m33-6 2011-01-02 23:59
this is horrible stops being so damn cheap and buy your own games, i'm all for homebrews but this could end sony then we will have to pay online

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# Cross 2011-01-03 00:07
"then we will have to pay online"

Bit hypocritical, there, isn't it?

Someone is always going to have to pay for something. Honestly, if I did get everything else for free, paying an annual fee for online services isn't so bad.

Also, just because the homebrew community is big doesn't mean that the general consumer base knows what's going on. Sure, piracy will skyrocket, but there will still be just as many people that are either not in the loop or don't know much more than how to turn on a game and buy things for their system. For some people, looking for information about stuff like this doesn't even cross their minds. The entire PS3/PSP market isn't just going to die out overnight, or at all.

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# SquallDNA 2011-01-03 00:22
dang you're right...

sony will be fine...
PSP2 is still on its way to save thier asses.

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# dora_thegamer 2011-01-03 00:24
If sony is screwed, game developers will stop producing games, means no more games for the psp, if the're no more games for the psp means your psp is screwed...it's only a cause and effect situation.

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# cray0000 2011-01-03 00:31
completely right, people, who use cfw, already can run any game/homebrew on almost any console. This key leaks will just do them less headache. And most of people just don't know about hacking or don't have enough skills to perform it.

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# Hairy 2011-01-03 00:34
this has great potential if its not a hoax, but if it is real there is no reason for people to worry about the psp/ps3 market crashing, like at least one person has said, the general consumer isnt gonna know about this, then there are many people who do know about this but are not pirates simply because they choose to buy the games even though they could download them free

can't wait to see if it is a hoax or not, any idea on a release date?

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# HYde 2011-01-03 00:36
Nice very nice. Can't wait for what comes next.

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# Beavis 2011-01-03 00:41
No download available...I hope this doesn't take 3+ months like 6.20 TN did.

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# Kyle 2011-01-03 00:42
Well put.

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# corrupt 2011-01-03 00:48
i just jizzed in my pants

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# spider-monkey 2011-01-03 00:48
Damn I feel 2011 is gonna be a great year. But i still want a CFW for my psp because i feel that with it in my psp i feel more freely. anyone agree with me?

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# holypuma 2011-01-03 00:53
this is no hoax, this is the real deal. almost all ps3 keys are now public and now so are these psp keys. they are all over twitter and psx forums everywhere.

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# Kyle 2011-01-03 00:54
January fools

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# A random kid 2011-01-03 01:01
If Im nt mistaken this is impossible to fix unless a new hardware revision is released because the crypto engine is hardware based meaning it cannot be fixed unless the hardware based crypto engine is replace. Sony, the stupid leakers and stupid programer(s), you really fucked yourself with your own dick.
If you would 1. Not have leaked a jig for the ps3
2. Never removed OtherOS
3. Programed your shit correctly
You could still make money from the the console sales. If the developers stop creating good games for the ps3 (psp games started suck a llllllooooonnnn nnggggg time ago) No one will buy a ps3 thus no more cash for poooorrrr little Sony.

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# eoh01 2011-01-03 01:26
Ditto

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# tristan 2011-01-03 01:29
good work team failoverflow... Mathieulh same guy from M33 who work with dark alex right? good job guys!

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# myass 2011-01-03 01:31
what does this mean?

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# learn_2_read 2011-01-03 01:42
Did you even read the post? It says what it means...

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# Fargaite 2011-01-03 01:42
Thats it, the PSP industry is dead, I do not see any good games being released this year.

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# underwood 2011-01-03 01:46
For some reason this is not good. if this is gonna happen then this might be the end for all psp/ps3 users. developers might halt/stop making games for the psp/ps3 console if this happens.

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# Andy335 2011-01-03 01:50
THIS IS GOOD AND BAD AT THE SAME TIME. LET ME SORT THINGS OUT FOR YOU GUYS AND SEE IF YOU AGREE WITH ME OR NOT.

GOOD NEWS: THE SONY PSP IS NOW DOMINATED BY US HACKERS AND SONY IS F*CKED. :)

BAD NEWS: NOW THAT THEY ARE F*CKED AND ONLY HAVE A 1% CHANCE OF FIXING THIS, THEY WILL PROBABLY QUIT THE GAMING INDUSTRY, SO NO MORE NEW GAMES FOR US TILL THE END OF THE WORLD. :(

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# Nelson 2011-01-03 01:52
At the end the homebrew won?

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# Shadowraith 2011-01-03 02:00
Ahahahahahahhah a. too funny. all their evil at taking away the nice homebrew developers abilities, and they finally get screwed in the worst way possible. just remember, give them thanks for the consoles in the first place. :P

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# AlexG 2011-01-03 02:04
holy shit.... this is fucking epic man can't wait...

so, can I finally sell my PSP 1000 and buy a GO? The GO is now fully hackable with this right? Or not hackable but it can run any homebrew now right, does that include iso? Damn, nvm... I'd still need my PSP 1000 to back up my UMD games...

In on EPIC topic... fuck yeah

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# armageddon 2011-01-03 02:07
So we should getnew games from 21/12/2012 :P

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# Meeeee 2011-01-03 02:11
Dude, UMD Dump.prx for 6.20 TN?
That new one does it!

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# turdferguson92 2011-01-03 02:12
lol, hardware revision eminent.

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# haha 2011-01-03 02:30
dick heads only way sony can patch this is to update the psp to figure out what firmware the ps3 is on. the latest firmware on the psp must be the same on the ps3. we have not won idiots

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# Michael 2011-01-03 02:34
Gotta love

int getRandomNumber (){
return 4;
}

XD yeah sony failed. Glad to see the same principles apply to the psp. I agree that cfw isn't going anywhere because of the ability for plugins but I wouldn't mind running a homebrew app as an overlay to enable cheating. Run cheating "game", select game/iso, cheat. I wonder how long it'll take for cfw for ps3 to be released and the first "official" homebrew to be released now that the keys are public.

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# You 2011-01-03 02:39
Game Developers will stop making them games you guys enjoy so only games that will be out will be home-brews that have a bunch of bugs in them.

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# ZG 2011-01-03 02:43
really you can access to the PSN, just enable PSNLover.prx and fake your PSP region to DEBUG I

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# SonyOfficial 2011-01-03 02:52
My my. Look how many cowards i spot in this one thread....lol geez. they make it look like its some form of apocalypse or something. for all the haters STFU!!!!!! For all the none haters cheers....oh the haters i'm talking are the ones bashing this breakthrough.

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# J3N0V4 2011-01-03 02:53
Sony Status
[ ] Told
[ ] FUCKING TOLD
[X] FUCKING RECEIVERSHIP

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# Vrscika 2011-01-03 02:53
I'm new to this and my PspGo still isnt hacked. Can someone dumb it down for me? theres no download link so whats going on?
Sorry for the stupid question -_-

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# warrenlittonreal 2011-01-03 03:05
FUCK YEAH!!!

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# sloshedtrain 2011-01-03 03:17
It took six years for something this to happen =)

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# dcoke25 2011-01-03 03:27
I thought of this about three years ago, or more so I wondered why no one had thought of/tried it before. Of course given my illiteracy in coding and hacking I was never able to help the scene. Sorry, but this is great. I just don't understand why it took so long though especially since the prior firmwares were more vulnerable and easier to read.

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# dcoke25 2011-01-03 03:32
so just to clarify everything from emulators and games should work without a problem; now here is where I get confused how do you get the PRX to work since that still needs access to the internals? I get that as far as the psp is concerned the alien code is legit, but prxs are a whole different beast. They enhance both the vsh and game by tweaking and manipulating how the psp runs.

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# dcoke25 2011-01-03 03:39
@Vrscika

what this does is it cuts out the need for exploits like the patapon/ hotshots golf; and instead treats all eboots like officail sony eboots by way of an electronic signiture. Eboots used in homebrew are unsigned and for that reason require a HEN/TN or CFW exploit to run them, this gives these eboots a special signature that convinces the PSP that it is a legit Sony signed game. With this it does away with the need for future hacks and exploits thus making 6.20TN-A/B moot and unnecessary. Feel free to correct me if I misunderstood how this works.

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# Miss Piggy 2011-01-03 03:42
I saw all these wonderful PS3-Keys, but i didn´t see a single PSP-Key. As long as there is no real key, it is fake!

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# absolofdoom 2011-01-03 03:43
HAHAHAHA, fuck yes! I'm just sitting here laughing my ass off like I just conquered the world or won a lifetime supply of cake or something.

This is a fitting blow to Sony for being such dicks! I can only imagine what we can do now...it's just beautiful. I'd like to think that Sony will learn from this, but they probably won't; however, we can at least enjoy it while it lasts, and hey! The ps3 is a "10 year system" right? Not to mention they'll have to keep the same signature for the new psp or they'll lose all backward-capability. Although the signature might only work on old psp games and such, but it's still a good leg up on them for the future. And just think, this all may not have happened if sony knew how to use a random number generator! hahahahahaha, god it kills me.

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# revan877 2011-01-03 03:58
OMFG I am, crying this, this is just so great.

A fucking big thanks to all guys who worked on this to make it possible. And a big fuck you too sony for not supporting any form of modding on such a cool device. Who keeps trying to kill off the scene.

Though idk how long this may last but happy nonetheless its a big step ahead!

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# Sub_Zero X 2011-01-03 04:05
Hi, I'm new at the to development in the PSP and wanted to know how to implement this 'keys' so that I can run homebrew on my PSP, yes I know C programming but I don't know how to sign my eboot, please help?

I know the basics of C programming, from my courses in college, and can anyone tell me where to get the 'keys'?

here is my email, please help!

jx1991x@hotmail.com

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# revan877 2011-01-03 04:06
I agree a little dude but really in truth the hacking base is not their entire market share. ofc its a security breach but sony isnt done for (if thats what you meant) I bet they'll do some hardware thing. Also last time I heard their CEO he was talking about how he liked the homebrew and didnt expect to see the PSP become what it is he was only really against how the piracy of content it brings.

btw: I am not against piracy but there is no proof I've ever pirated anything. lol

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# Sub_Zero X 2011-01-03 04:09
@Michael

I think you should not return 4, but instead the integer of the random number generated:

int GenerateRandomN umber(){

int i;

i=rand(); /* I know it isn't really a random number, but used for demonstration only */

return i;
}

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# JoblessPunk 2011-01-03 04:12
fuck yea!

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# TWIZTIDJUGGALO86 2011-01-03 04:15
Bravo hackers. This is some great news anyway you look at it. Oh no new games you say? really, even if games do stop being released what about the HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS of gamevplay you can experience with all of the games already out.

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# leomate 2011-01-03 04:42
Is that mean we can install Permanent Custom Firmware in PSP 3000 and GO ??????

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# download 2011-01-03 04:43
That's not really the case.
Anyone who wanted to could run custom software before, the only difference now is that you don't have to install a custom firmware first. That's it.

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# amazingmao 2011-01-03 04:53
easy, just sign prometheus with the key
now you don't even need custom firmwares, just run prometheus iso loader and then run game iso

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# Michael 2011-01-03 05:09
You obviously didn't understand the joke. That was the code sony used for their "random" number generation. That's how this entire thing is possible and how failoverflow cracked the keys.

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# Organized_Chaos 2011-01-03 05:24
This is going to make hacking boring now. Everything just got easier... if this makes it's way into the public's hands.

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# Eternalcold 2011-01-03 05:35
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG! *SEQUELS LIKE A LITTLE GIRL*

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# Kristo 2011-01-03 05:36
Purple Drapes!!!

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# Eugene 2011-01-03 05:42
Yeah, CFW on my PSP 3000 Ghost of Sparta Bundle!! :)

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# DVD 2011-01-03 05:45
dont know why everyones so happy

what commercial games are coming out? hardly any except jap rpgs why?? well....

dreamcast - started out well, security got ripped apart, games stopped being made, dreamcast dies, sega nearly dies

psp - started promising, cfw made, less ans less games due to piracy, security now ripped apart, no games will get released, psp will die........

ps3 - not the best start in the world, biggest selling point being blueray drive, struggling to cope against xbox, poor xbox ports released, sub hd games, then security ripped open, less and less games will be released due to piracy, ps3 will die, sony will have big money problems

i kinda missed out ps1 and ps2, while there was a lot of piracy on both, they were so popular, it was still worth releasing games on both, bit like the ds, companies still got a good return, and to run pirated games you needed devices/hacks which alot of people dont like doing.
whereas with this method if you can just run anything, copied games etc without doing anything.........

you lot will moan about this but its true

team overflow and Mathieulh, you've gone one step too far, your names will go down in history as the 2@s who killed off the ps3 and psp, and possibly sony.... (they are struggling finacially at the moment, there game division has only just produce a profit, after releasing ps3)

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# phantom 2011-01-03 05:55
at least Sony will sell lots of memory cards

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# Alexeon 2011-01-03 06:01
Fuck YES!

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# Cross 2011-01-03 06:03
They'll do that, and sell a lot more hardware, now.

If it can be manipulated, people want it.

Not that the games market will tank entirely. SOMEONE has to buy it in some way, shape, or form. Even one or two pirates.

The hardware's kind of old. I'm suspecting that Sony was going to move on soon anyway. I hope that they at least learn from their mistakes regarding their homebrew policy.

Not that I don't understand the dislike of piracy, but it makes them look like they hate homebrew coders no matter what they actually say. I'm hardly the first to say that, but still...

Sorry, I started rambling, ha ha.

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# Peterhead 2011-01-03 06:04
IF this pans out Ill finally be able to play Crisis Core on my GO. Unfortunately this is also the last nail in the coffin for the PSP. No one will want to develop for it if this comes to pass.

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# DSpider 2011-01-03 06:05
Filthy pirate. Shut it.

I like me them battery plugins, UMD plugins, music plugins, ctf themes and emulators. So custom firmware is here to STAY ! Except soon you'll just need to run a "signed" EBOOT and that's it, "hacking" done.

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# DSpider 2011-01-03 06:16
A bit sad I think. Game developers will stay away from it like the plague if this hits mainstream.

There already are too many shitty games that confirm this is already happening right now. The little thread the PSP is hanging on will get cut.

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# PSPpissed 2011-01-03 06:24
Will this work on PSP 3000 with 6.35 OFW????????

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# PSNHATER 2011-01-03 06:35
lets just hope the a-holes at sony dont decide to start charging people to sign into PSN somewhat like how they did socom 3 with the online license having a vaule of $39.99 i belive just to play online but thats neither here nor their at this time also i just want to say AWSOME WORK for sticking it hard to $ONY they should have listend to the consumer and not thir wallets

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# Mister Yan 2011-01-03 06:36
2011: The year where the hackers pwned Sony before the end of the first week.

This will be one for the history books ;-)

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# martyn 2011-01-03 06:37
psp was ready for retirement any way this is a good end for it, at least it will be loved again
psp2 & ps4 are sonys future now and i for one carnt wait to c what they bring. At least now this will give sony the push to move on and we've got our homebrew consoles to enjoy as well as new tech to look forward to.

great news

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# lala 2011-01-03 06:46
is this safe..? what if some hacker genius out there who is also microsoft xbox fanboy made a trojan in a hidden homebrew/game that would destroy every ps3 on earth?

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# shadow1w2 2011-01-03 06:49
Well, good news and bad news I say.
We all get to party but its gonna have an effect on the consoles.
I bet sony might give up on both and hold their hurt ego rather tightly.
Getting close to moving on to the next gen so they might just give up on todays and start early.

Last minute to go get a PSP 3000 and PS3 for me it seems.
My PSP 2000 screen broke anyway and I've been waiting for a chance to use a 3000 model instead. Too lazy to go get a replacment screen heh. Guess I had a feeling something was gonna pop up.

I hope homebrew explodes with this. I can't wait to see what good the community will bring from this.

Still, I feel kinda bad for sony. They've tried so hard but it seems to have inspired the scene to make it to the top. Shoulda kept linux on there, guys, shoulda kept it. It was the best protection the ps3 ever could have had.

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# Corey96 2011-01-03 07:05
This is great! Neither a firmware update or a hardware update can fix because older games signed with the keys won't work. We WIN! Homebrew rules!

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# RedHate 2011-01-03 07:08
sony takes it DEEP!

who here hasn't had a go at sony she's nice n lubed up but you may wanna douche her 1st.

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# deathkid874 2011-01-03 07:13
maybe you guys should have waited till psp2 and ps4 for this release they might have had the same codes just sayin

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# austiny 2011-01-03 07:40
alright psp unlocked to the max but we need cfw or lcfw to use plugins for the psp

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# absolofdoom 2011-01-03 07:44
trolol?

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# Schadrach 2011-01-03 07:44
What portable would they develop for instead? This just makes it as hackable as the DS, at the best. Last I checked, there were decent DS games still being released, and it's not like they have a lot of other alternatives.

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# alexkerscher 2011-01-03 09:04
Actually, you can. Just select Debug Type I on your Region definition on the VSH (TN-B 6.20) and lo!, you'll be able to get into PSN.

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# lovely 2011-01-03 09:11
IN MEMORANDUM


R.I.P. SONY PSP 2005 - 2010

R.I.P. SONY PLAYSTATION 3 2006 - 2011


such great times promised by both of you, but your lives cut short, not by the competition, but by stupid hackers going that one step too far,

you'll always be in our hearts, on our credit card bill, and always missed

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# Bruno 2011-01-03 09:19
HUAHUAHUAHUA \O/\O/\O/\O/

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# brick_master 2011-01-03 09:24
This is awesome news
but this could mean that games will stop developing for the psp and ps3.............they might stop the production of these consoles..............then what..????????

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# JKnight 2011-01-03 09:31
Sony... you just got your ass handed down to you...

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# yaro 2011-01-03 09:36
aw yeah! Looks like I'm be CL shopping for a GO, in the near future.

Sony, suck a dick.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 09:41
if this were a comparison of tech in WWII, TN-B would be the SuperFortress Bomber, and this new development would be the Atom Bomb.

Honestly, its sounding too good to be true, but it is very interesting. Lets see how it goes.

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# cav 2011-01-03 09:41
well this is great, although making this public is wrong, i have 3 ps3's all upto date and all having 3 copies of games we play online. this will screw sony and the people that make the games, enjoy what you got, as this is going to fuck everyone not just them, all the money people already spent well now worth nothing. homebrew is good but piracy is well just LAME

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# 99redballoons 2011-01-03 09:41
why are people dissing sony and psp etc, why are you glad this has happened?

without sony the whole gaming industry would be 10 years behind, they made it popular with the original ps1 and then the ps2

the dreamcast nearly killed off sega, why? because it was so easy to play pirate games

so if this does the same thing, psp and ps3 are just the living dead

who'll invest millions making games for something thats become the new dreamcast

idiots

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 09:42
Remember, Sony is the producer of your PSP. Be grateful that they made it in the first place. They have a legal obligation to prevent piracy on their handheld console, which inculdes homebrew (which support emulators)

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# Stephen 2011-01-03 09:46
I can't believe what I am seeing. I thought hacking the PSP was easy but being able to play any homebrew on the PS3 and PSP OFW! My sister is going to be happy when she sees this. She wanted her PSP hacked but I tolled her that if I have to make a pandora battery for her and screw it up then she will not have a PSP. OOO I can't wait to play classics on the PS3. (Ripping PS1 games off disk then convert to eboot.) OOOO I hope that my eyes are not playing tricks on me. (For the people who say that the PS3 and Sony will die, well your wrong. There is More people who do not even know about CFW or PSJailBrake then there are hackers and supporters. There are also the people who are completely against piracy and hacking to. If anything will happen it would be that more people will just buy there systems so they can play homebrew on them.)

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 09:47
Heres the flaw in your logic;

This only affects the KIRK chipset on the console, in the sense that it will allow CFW, and unsigned (Erm, Forged is a better term?) eboots/prx modules.

Doesnt necissarily mean that its going to support piracy. Look at TN-A/B, TN did not incorporate an ISO loader, and if we really wanted, we could prevent it.

This is just a repeat of what happened several years ago with dark alex. He found a way to create CFW for the phat, now we've broken the encryption after a couple years and found a way to put CFW on a Brite.

Sony will most likely do one of several things;

For PSP:

Option A: Create a new motherboard and put it in PSPs that are serviced, and probably introduce it quitely like the TA-90.

Option B: Abandon it in favor of the new PSP2 coming out.


for PS3:

Create a new motherboard.

Since this is a revelation of all the codes KIRK uses, its kind of moot to just say "They'll change the encryption". I dont think thats possible, even through a system update.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 09:49
Give it another month for it to produce fruit.

And yes, sales would increase, but remember; Sony has a legal obligation to make their consoles secure and legit, no unsigned code, and no piracy in any fashion.

Honestly, I dont know how to look at this, whether as a blessing or a curse. One thing is for certain;

Got me back in the comment scene.

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# cav 2011-01-03 09:50
more people might buy the systems for so called homebrew or more like playing pirated games !! agreed, but that does not help the developers making new games, it will if anything put them off making anything new or decent

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 09:53
First, I thought you were coolio

Then you drop a bomb like the rest of your comment there.

Yes, Sony has a legal obligation, and yes, developers dont like making games on hacked systems (PSP has what? 10 releases a year compared to other consoles?)

Heres the thing tho; Something similar to this (DA never had to deal with a KIRK chip I dont think) has happened before, and what pioneered CFW. History is merely repeating itself in the PSP scene.

Sony wont invest any more cash in to the console. Why? Because they havea new toy coming out sometime in 2011.if it was even 6 months prior to this discovery, they probably ould be remaking the KIRK chipset as we speak.

And I thought the insane costs of Dreamcast was what mainly killed it. Compared to N64, it was like 2x more expensive per game, console, and controller. Kick ass games though.

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# CREEnana 2011-01-03 09:53
So is it possible to play legally backed-up ISOs with this?

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 10:02
Homebrew and Piracy are NOT the same. Homebrew is legal in the sense that it does not infringe any license.

Some examples of a Homebrew App:
a Home Made game
Plugins
Testing Applications (Such as BlackSPEED)

Some Examples of Piracy:
ISOs (UNLESS, legally backed up and obtained through legal means (IE, not downloaded))
ROMS (for like NesterJ or snes9x)


In any case, this just allows us to create homebrew without needing a HEN or CFW to use it. Its revolutionary. This is basically doing what CFW does without the hazards it entails.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 10:05
I love it when people post stupid questions like this.

Its clearly stated that this allows the use of Unsigned code by forging sony's signature.

Its not a app, its the codes itself, so thats like saying "I have a key to a car that doesnt exist, can I drive it?"

Now, if someone creates a iso loader, then yes, its possible. HOWEVER, the bigger question is, how did you obtain the ISOs? ANY ISO for PSP is illegally obtained simply due to the fact that theyre UMDs, and required hacked software to obtain them. BRDs, however, I assume are possible.

Save the questions until the coding itself is released. This is merely an update on the situation.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 10:08
when you grow a pair. Big and mighty to say "fuck you sony" here, why dont you drive to their corp HQ and say that.

Again, for your tiny hick brain; This is merely a discovery of the encryption code. Not a app, not anything. So asking when it will be released is kinda stupid unless youre a developer, in which case you'd already know form the head honchos themselves.

Be patient. Wait until something comes out to confirm this, then reap the benefits of it.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 10:14
Alot of people are claiming that this is a the demise of the consoles.

Before you post anything of the sort, look at the past of sony (And not dreamcast, who lacked funding to constantly revamp their software)

PSP phats were hacked by DA and his team, and created CFW to run unsigned code on the console. Sony's response? Create several new motherboards before releasing slims, which were completely revamped.

PSP Slims were further hacked by the GEN team. Sony's response? release new motherboards (which by TA-88v3, they finally suceeded), while releasing brites.

Now, PSP Brites, finally released a HEN which runs on 6.20, and sony patched up through system updates. We've finally broken their code and are going to inject homebrew onto the psp 3000/go fort he second (TN was the first) time on the 6.xx kernel. Sony's responce? Who knows. If they repeat themselves, they'll release new motherboards, or even a new version, if not just abandon it for the PSP2.

PSP will follow suit, older versions could run linux, and theres already plenty of hard mods to allow the use of pirated games. Sony will most likely revamp the kirk chip and release it silently, cutting their losses.

Dont be so pessimistic to say sony's going to cut their consoles and full support. Look at it this way; Sony most likely will honor your waranty so they can replace the Kirk chip and take your hax away.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 10:16
"PSP will follow suit, older versions could run linux, and theres already plenty of hard mods to allow the use of pirated games. Sony will most likely revamp the kirk chip and release it silently, cutting their losses."

Sorry, I meant PS3 there, not PSP.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 10:19
The problem with that is theyre not legally able to sell a console that condones piracy, and that sadly includes homebrew.

What your jsut said above is like saying "I hope cops learn their lesson and shoot every criminal on site now"

90% of psp/ps3 owners dont even know they can hack their psp. In all the times I've taken in PSPs at buybacks (about 100 or so times), I've NEVER seen a hacked console. Same goes for PS3, fat or slim.

that said, the gaming industry wont take a huge hit. Not initially in any case. Before things get rough for them, sony will most likely be workingo n the next generation console, like PS4 or PSP2

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 10:22
Piracy isnt evil, however, it does rob from the developers.

In any case, yes. We'll have signed code, which means CFW is done. Its served well, but as long as sony doesnt change their encryption methods or their KIRK chipset, CFW will be a thing of the past.

as the french say;

viva la revolution!

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# Frankelier 2011-01-03 10:29
COMBO!!!! OVERKILLED!!! 99999!!!! HEATSHOT!!!! YOU'R DEAD!!! and any game expression that you can apply to been raped! XD

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# Vrscika 2011-01-03 10:30
So I have a PspGo OFW 6.35.
Am I suppose to wait for something to come out to use this or is there something out now?
Still new here.
Please reply, thank you.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 10:43
No Download Link = Its either not software or not out yet.

Ignorance is no excuse for no common sense.

In any case, this isnt a app. Its the coding that allows the apps to be run without the use of HEN or CFW.

So unless you're a developer, this doesnt effect you YET.

All oyu need to know is that in a few weeks, you can expect to run Homebrew on your PSP without CFW/HEN.

HOWEVER, I still wouldnt update your psp. I have a bad feeling about this revelation.

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# Vrscika 2011-01-03 10:55
Thank you :)

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# adequate 2011-01-03 11:00
lets see is this one of the sony's inevitable part for participating in the entertainment for making game consoles or this is one of their plans..

As the people say the more the merrier...

we will see sooner or later...

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# zeh 2011-01-03 11:04
Release: Hen for 6.31/6.35 by Virtuous Flame & Coldbird

January 3, 2011 in Hen 6.35, release | 10 comments

Note: the version on this page is an updated version directly sent by Virtuous Flame himself, it is even “fresher” than the one on a9vg :)

Chinese developers ?????? (Virtuous Flame) and Coldbird posted a Hen for 6.35/6.31 a few hours ago on a9vg.com. Although I tested it quickly and could confirm it works on my PSP3000, I didn’t have the time to write a nice download page or even to update any of the Hen FAQs yet.

This Hen includes code to benefit from the extra 32MB of Ram :)

Many thanks to Virtuous Flame, and enjoy your gaming on 6.35 :)
How to install/run

1. download and install HBL for the sukkiri exploit here
2. download the Hen here for 6.35, or here for 6.31 (or alternate link here for 6.35, or here for 6.31)
3. replace hbl/menu/EBOOT.PBP with the EBOOT.PBP from the Hen
4. Enjoy

Source a9vg.com, thanks to tabootang for the tip!

Note: yes, the prometheus iso loader works on this Hen.

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# zeh 2011-01-03 11:07
information above is from wololo.net ,
it meansHAPPY NEW YEAR to all psp users , even for 6.31 and 6.35 ofw


greg is still sleeping i guess so he didnt saw this information .......

for download go check wololo.net :D

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# zeh 2011-01-03 11:20
- here are some download links :

6.35 HEN -> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S...

6.31 HEN -> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C...

- alternative downloads :

6.35 HEN -> http://wololo.net/download.php...

6.31 HEN -> http://wololo.net/download.php...


ENJOY !!

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# GuardianDemon 2011-01-03 11:23
It's a double Wammy mate. PS3 keys got put out too. Hackers now COMPLETELY own BOTH the PS3 AND PSP !!!

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# RNB_PSP 2011-01-03 11:25
This is cool.No need for patching, cfw wars, and up/downgrading, and less(or more?) prone to bricking. Now I won't be surprised if gaming companies will not make any more games for the current PSPs(which might force sony to do a psp2 asap?). :D

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 11:31
well, Sony was stupid enough to use the same key for all their consoles... And use the simple formula for getting a random number aswell.

And we dont completely own them. Theres still lv1 to be decrypted, which is being worked on. However, we now have plenty control over the consoles.

I'll give a week before a Forged ISO loader to come out.

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# jinzo 2011-01-03 11:34
nice, this is indeed a great breakthru in the sony hacking scene :) lets see how this develops

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 11:34
Since the encrypting is done hardware side and not software, it means the only way sony could fix it is to replace every single kirk chip.

So until sony releases a new motherboard, all psps and ps3s are hackable by these means.

as for developing games, devs dont have much of a choice. Its either PSP or DS. They'll go PSP. Also, just because this came out doesnt mean the end. 90% of owners dont even know they can/could hack a psp/ps3.

Also, CFW still will be around for those who want it, and for plugins. Personally, I like my VSH menu =)

As wololo pointed out on his site; This is the equivelent to the first CFW and the Pandora's Battery back on the old phats. Its revoltuionary. I dont know how they cracked it, but they did.

Lesson to be learned? Dont piss off hackers. (Real hackers, not those idiots on FPS games that have no lives)

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# RNB_PSP 2011-01-03 11:35
and don't forget the PSN and all those cheaters. sigh!

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# nobody 2011-01-03 11:45
hen for 6.31/6.35 released on wololo.net :P

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# DemShoes 2011-01-03 11:49
Thanks dude :) I was so confused about this but now i get it. This also means that us 6.3x+ users can stop bitching about a HEN port

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 11:56
right, anyways, all we have to do is sign any code to make it run.

Although I do wonder if it WOULD work with CFW. I know the IPL needs a signed FW to boot the psp... thats a good thing to look at.

Of course, if we can sign our own code then why do we need CFW in the first place?

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# 99redballoons 2011-01-03 12:00
@miles cadre

look at the bigger picture mate, you cant compare what dark alex and co did to this,
dark alex's system was good for homebrewers and for pirating isos,
but could everyone use it? no
would everyone use it who could use it? no
there was thge fear factor, people didn't want to brick there machines etc, alot of people dont like modding etc incase it 'invalidates there warrenty'
i did... and i did have the odd iso,
but if this means, like in the case of dreamcast, that you get a iso loader, and then possibly modded iso's that load direct on any standard ofw ps3/psp then we are screwed, no game company is going to waste money releasing games on that system.

If you can download a psp iso or pick up a ps3 copy for £5 or £10 from that guy down the pub or off a carboot, would you buy an original at £30/£40?

psp hardly has had any games for the last few years, and that was because of da and co, many companies have said psp piracy is too high, and only a relatively small amount of machines to those sold use cfw/pirated isos apparently,

blow it open and both psp and psp are screwed

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# 99redballoons 2011-01-03 12:06
that last bit was meant to be psp and psp are screwed

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# 99redballoons 2011-01-03 12:06
psp and ps3.... hahahaha get there eventually

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# Art 2011-01-03 12:08
me too

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# Razredge 2011-01-03 12:09
So many people think "ZOMG, now the gaems won't sell anymoar! Sony is going bankrupt!1one!!!1!eleven! PSP and PSP will die, and no moar gaems ever agen!"

PS2 was hacked and pirated beyond belief, and Sony still kept making PS2s, and still does. And Sony still got money out of it, and it still got many great games, and also still sold shitloads of games -- although it could have sold a lot more if there was no piracy, but yet developers still made a buck out of it.

There is CFW for the PSP since forever. And it still got some great games this past year. And Sony is also getting money from those, otherwise the PSP scene would be dead by now... but it isn't! And it's not going to die just yet. At least not until PSP2 comes out. You can expect the same thing for the PS3. And besides it's not as easy to download one PS3 game as it is to download a PSP game.

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# Razredge 2011-01-03 12:12
In the second line, read: [...] PSP and PS3 [not PSP] will die, [...]

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# johnko1 2011-01-03 12:20
I just hope that this isn't the end of good games for psp/ps3.Sony's screwed or will we do so???Think again.....

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# 99redballoons 2011-01-03 12:23
its never been as easy as an isoloader, or modified isos tho has it? to load copied games on completely unmodified machines

i said before, alot of people dont like to tamper with there machines, i've compared this new method to dreamcast as it was that easy on that machine, which died very quickly once it was.

ps2 needed chipping, and sold a lot better than ps3 has, so again the ratio of people who were able to play copies to those who had to buy them was a lot lower, so still making it worthwile releasing new games

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 12:29
Dark Alex brought CFW and unsigned code to a console which was at the time thought to be unhackable.

Furthermore the Pandora's Battery to this day is still the most venerable and reliable way to downgrade a psp.

Now we've cracked the code, the very same code thats bee the bane of Slims and Brites and even GOs for the last 3+ years

Perhaps you're right. its not on the same level, but still, We've now gained almost full access to sony consoles.

Theres still plenty of psp titles being developed. For UMD releases, theres about 10 a year or so, but online, theres more.

So on the PSP scene, I dont think it'll affect it much.

Now, PS3 however, thats indeed a different story. I didnt bring this point up simply because this site is for psp, not ps3.

PS3 still has Wii and XBox 360 to compete with. XBox 360 still can fight with ps3 for graphics, sony just had better hardware (with the exception to security). With sony being completely exposed, unless theres a way for sony to fix it, 360 will take the lead in game development for home consoles.

But, as far as handhelds are concerned, I doubt the market will change much for PSP. If anyhting, it'll boost a few sales. I prefer hard copies, btw, and I paid 200$ for my Peacewalker pack. I like havin the case and manuals to the games, I read em when I'm bored, and when I need some guidance. But, thats me.

Now, so you dont take this the wrong way, you're points are EXTREMELY valid, and I definitely agree with many of them. However, This is unprecedented, and now we really dont know what will happen on the ps3 scene (we're jsut expecting sony to abandon psp for psp2.)

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 12:34
The dreamcast had virtually no encryption for their games. I could literally buy a CD-R and copy a dreamcast game, and it would play.

This, coupled with the high costs of the console and games is what killed SEGA and Dreamcast.

Sony's PS3 is expensive when compared to other consoles. Furthermore, with no security now, people will copy the games, and sony will lose money.

I dont think it will kill them. They have other markets to keep them alive. However, it may pull them out of the home console business.

Furthermore, It hurts developers too. They get a share o the profits to recoup the costs to develop the game. If they dont make enough, they die out or just say screw it and move to just 360 or wii.

That said, I also think 90% of people who post here are pessimistic thinking its going to bring the demise. I'm sure sony has a way to patch it and make our lives hell again. If not, they'll find a way to survive, or just pull from the home console market.

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# 99redballoons 2011-01-03 12:34
yeah your right... wonder how long this will delay psp2 tho, some people saying it will push the release forward, but if they cant come up with a new reliable security system first......

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 12:42
Whoever developed the security is going ot et fired. But, theyre actually quite smart simply because they took a simple algorithm to generate a random unique string to fit the equation. In otherwords, They had a very simple solution to a complex issue.

And it wasnt the security itself that failed, it was another flaw if I'm not mistaken that pointed to how to obtain the keys.

I'm sure sony can put a better encryption. Hell, they might revamp the KIRK chip, and put a better algorithm in it to prevent this form ever happening again.

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# 99redballoons 2011-01-03 12:49
thinking about it, they'll prob try dropping game prices first anyway, £10 or £20, but there wont be much on the disc, mainly the bulky data, like the main game engine and video, then the levels etc will be mainly DLC, and they will protect it that end some how, like this attack on the used game market.

2011 will definitely be interesting tho

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# dog 2011-01-03 12:50
Cant sony just fix this in the usual fashion?? with a firmware update

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# mikihack 2011-01-03 12:50
It should be possible, using that openidea eboot builder, but support could be way better than it is now... It's crashing like hell... every 5 sec I expected for game to crash... But Sony won't even care for this, 'cause they are releasing PSP2 as soon as possible...But again, it will be based for android, so we could unite in hacking PSPs, us and xda-devs...

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 12:54
Apparently, form what we know, they cant. And the reason behind that is because how KIRK handles the encryption. The only way is to physically modify the chip itself, or flash its memory. Of which you cant do in a simple system update.

The easiest, cheapest, and fastest way to deal with the problem is to revamp KIRK and release it on a new motherboard.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-03 12:55
Dont think justo n the psp level.

Also, PSP 2 will probably be released either a little early due to this discovery, or a little later due to new measures taken to redo KIRK.

either way, PSP is almost completely mapped.

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# meep.o.matic 2011-01-03 12:56
Well, PSP enjoyed a couple of good game years and yet it was wide open to hackers (pandora and Hen). I'm betting on a console sales increase.

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# Porongoso 2011-01-03 13:00
Xbox 360 is pirateable but lot of people still buy this console and buy original games so its the same here.

Game boys/nds were pirateables and emulable in computers and Nintendo is not falling down, why everyone worry? Also it would be better if this push Sony to launch a Ps4 and Psp2 with hardware updates because Ps3 and Psp are now outdated, even an Ipod had better graphics than Psp and a middle computer have better looking games than Ps3 (when its multiplatform like Mass Effect 2, etc)

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# John Rohan 2011-01-03 13:18
Someone please tell me why this is a good thing to "destroy" Sony? The company that makes the hardware and much of the software that we enjoy so much?

If this is all true, at the least it will mean that either they will abandon the console gaming market, or a quicker release for the (probably unhackable) PS4 and PSP2.

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# alexkerscher 2011-01-03 13:18
OpenIdea is crashing so much with you? That's (not) funny. I've been using it heavly for the last day and my games only crash when I put my PSP on sleepmode while a game is still running.

Are you sure you configured everything right?

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# PSPdev++ 2011-01-03 13:20
FUCK YEAHHHHHHH!!!!! !!!Now that the code has been found there will be more CFW's and more Homebrews.And best of all we'll run homebrews without having a HEN Or CFW installed!!!!!! EveryBODY GIVE A HELL YEAH IF YOU GUYS THINKS THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!! !

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# zeh 2011-01-03 13:27
wut wat , no more new game ?

-monster hunter portable 3rd
-the 3rd birthday
-final fantasy xiii : agito

and others wich i cant remember right now , check youtube or other psp game sites before u flame

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# Mike 2011-01-03 13:36
That's a shitload of shit!

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# Mike 2011-01-03 13:50
Anybody involved with removing OtherOS within $ony's decision-making committee (the propagator, chain of command, and the ultimate decision authority) should be shitting bricks if they haven't been fired, yet.

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# Hater 2011-01-03 13:52
Miles, CFW will still be useful just because of the extra menu's and features like plugins. Even with this you cant exactly "Sign" plugins.

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# AlexG 2011-01-03 13:53
wow, it's like a dream... it wasn't that long ago that the PS3 was thought to be almost unhackable, and the later PSP models were questionable for homebrew but now it's all completely open... lol

I cannot wait for this to release... I am so buying a GO or a 3000... one of the two for sure

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# Mike 2011-01-03 13:57
Why do you say that? Surely, it can't be because you think piracy kills systems. The DS has been hacked and piracy is possible there, yet Nintendo could eat a game, shit it out, put it in a box, and still sell it hand over fist. Piracy affects Nintendo just as much as Sony, yet Nintendo can't figure out what to do with all their money. Nintendo even released their susceptible handheld first!

You're complaining for the wrong reasons, my friend.

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# Mike 2011-01-03 14:01
And what makes you think that plugins will still be required? You don't think there will be a way to incorporate plugins within the FW?

Besides, you won't have to "sign" a plugin if you write a FW that accepts them.

Oh, and FYI: any FW we create is, by definition, CFW...signed or no. CFW won't "still be usefull", it will "still be required".

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# Mike 2011-01-03 14:06
If you take something designed by someone else, and change it to your liking, you are "Customizing" it. Therefore, CFW will never go away as we will be "customizing" the FW's that $ony produces.

Anybody else need a word to be defined?

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# {umpkin 2011-01-03 14:17
Oh please.
The DS has been completely hackable for years, and THAT is going strong. Everyone saying this will destroy PSP gaming is either stereotyping people who follow the scene, or pirates judging everyone by their own standards. Unit sales will, at least temporarily, increase for one, the vast majority of gamers who are ) repulsed by piracy, b) casual/semi-casual gamers, c) ignorant of technology, and d) uninterested in this stuff will ignore it.

This will finally make the Go the amazing piece of tech sony claimed it would be (Delicious irony :D).
It will also teach them to stop trying to exploit us and make the people who owned a PS1 (Considering it was GOD back when it was released, I would say most of us over 12) buy the games they already own.
It will add to the portability, since people won't have to carry their games and cases, they can back them up instead.

Of course there'll be pirates, but pirates didn't kill the DS (Flashcarts), PS2 (Swapmagic), Xbox (Linux method), Wii (cIos), or even PC (Ripping a game and using a virtual drive), nor did it destroy the PSP when it was a Pandora battery and an MMS, in fact, I am sure those things helped ship a lot of consoles and accessories, which would, at the very least, minimize the losses from piracy.

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# Mike 2011-01-03 14:18
Don't think for a second that having master keys won't cause a developer to enter his/her own set of features now that it's even easier to implement.

In fact, we may see more CFW's akin to Linux distros.

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# Mike 2011-01-03 14:23
Here! Here!

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# .......... 2011-01-03 14:27
Good.......Fuck Sony...

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# zeh 2011-01-03 14:33
wot wot , im on 6.20 th hen B , and when i go under system information it only says - version 6.20 :o

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# Random Guy 2011-01-03 15:00
DREAMCAST DIED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE DEVELOPER BACKING!!!!!!! FFS you people are so ignorant do some research for gods sake and you would easily find out what happened... all it took was a single google..heres the link for anyone interested http://www.associatedcontent.c...

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# dcoke25 2011-01-03 15:00
I read on the PS3 forum that Sony and Nintendo have to keep their codes closed to the public due to some japanese law, but then someone said then Japan wouldn't allow Mozilla based off that logic. So I think there is some truth to that statement but if the Code/Program comes from outside of the Country they won't restrict it, hence why they can have Google Android. Sony on many occasions has alluded that they don't have a problem with homebrew, they just have a problem with the inevitable outcome which always seems to be piracy. So I think that the next PSP2 that has been estimated to be released by Christmas of this year will be an XMB layer running on top of Android. This allows some pressure and strain for security (and patching holes) to be redirected to Google also, thus allowing the company to focus once again on gaming. This would then allow amateur coders to create and manipulate Sony code with their blessing, thus cutting down a bit on piracy. Again this is just speculation and conjecture based off of the whole SonyErricson PSPphone that is running android, and their apparent newfound love of the OS.

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# Nigntmare-Rex 2011-01-03 15:49
to whoever is saying it's "illegal" to sell a console that can pirate is complete BS. look at the computer thats a "console" that runs unsignd code. look up homebrew "consoles" they run unsignd code. if I made a "console" i would make it have 2 programing langudes. one would be for homebrew witch requires no "signing" and the other would be for official shit and requires "signing"

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# 007ace 2011-01-03 15:51
game stats for this year prove the most pirated games were also the highest grossing games of the year. it proves that if great games are released, people will buy them. your piracy killing gaming point is moot.

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# greenpatches 2011-01-03 15:57
To those discussing "revamped KIRK chips," how exactly would that stop this? Think about it. Even if Sony changed the chips and updated their encryption to newer, more complex keys, the new models would STILL need to permit code with the old keys to run. If they make a whole new batch of consoles that don't accept the old keys, tens of millions of purchased game discs, blu-rays and umds suddenly don't work. You want to talk about losing money? They'd be sued into bankruptcy for that.

Logically speaking, I don't really see what they could do to fix this. This isn't a hack, it's not a workaround that sneaks code past their security, it's a full fledged theft of their security system. And no matter what they change, software of hardware, those old keys still need to work...or else, as I mentioned before, a lot of people will have useless PURCHASED software sitting around.

That having been said, I highly doubt this will "end" either system. Particularly in the PS3's case, the industry's been moving more and more to exclusively online content and gameplay for years...if there's any front they could still protect themselves on, it's subscriptions. Sure, this may hurt the sales of physical media, but that market's been going downhill for years, anyway. Don't worry, you'll still get new games.

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# she had bigguns 2011-01-03 16:05
to umkin
I know a lot of people who have Wii's and would never consider getting them chipped, and its not like you can nip in Gamestation and pick up a DS Flashcart. You have to look at it this way, a lot of people think that piracy is illegal, and they are right, we are committing the crimes, not them, and we are in the minority.
I dont know the exact figures but the Playstation 1 + 2, DS,and WII, have sold in multi-millions, for e.g. if PS2 sold 10million and 10% of owners pirate games you still have 9 million potential customers for a game.
If this is, as implied here, that you could load copied games on official firmware, PSP or PS3, without any modification, i.e. your Grandad could do it.... then this will be bad, like the console you failed to mention but others have, Sega Dreamcast, yeah maybe it had a few reasons for bombing, costs etc, but all i remember is bootdisc came out, then copies came out that didn't need a bootdisc, then they stopped releasing games and it died.

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# spiral 2011-01-03 16:13
DAMN!! have you read some of this cowpoop???

we need a poll:-

who's just thinking free games?? :)

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# RNB_PSP 2011-01-03 17:25
i didn't say this will end the psp. I'm just saying this will discourage some commercial game devs as this work invokes piracy. you said 90% of people don't know they can hack their psp. at that point, i see articles saying that piracy on the psp is so high. what more if you don't need hacking to pirate? :D i'm not pissing off these devs. just saying what's in my head. i like these hacks. the fall of the current PSPs will push sony to sell a psp2 asap.

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# Pumpkin 2011-01-03 17:48
But, how many people will be uninterested in this for piracy?
The Dreamcast had many other issues, one of which being it's predecessor. Playstation is one of the most popular and profitable brands in the world, whereas Sega's integrity had taken a massive dive, as had their standing with developers.

Besides, anyone willing to pirate will find a way, be it buying a hackable PSP, or emulating games. This just makes it easier for them.

Industries don't die because of piracy alone.
Things bomb for a variety of reasons, and piracy is just a factor.
Piracy just helped the dreamcast's inevitable demise.

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# Pumpkin 2011-01-03 17:50
Oh, and wii piracy is simpler than just a chip, all it involves is a hack using a popular game that many people own and an installer that does all the work.

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# Cross 2011-01-03 17:52
I've said what you just said above, before.

I'm really not saying that, but I am saying that people have said that before. If it looked like I was saying something along those lines, then sorry.

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# Andrew 2011-01-03 17:52
How does a psp tell the difference between a legit psp game and a signed homebrew game? It can't, because there is none.

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# Cross 2011-01-03 17:59
This is true. The release of such knowledge, even, is a double-edged sword.

They do still develop for this thing, there still actually are some decent games coming out, and whether this is here or not, I plan to buy said decent games, personally. Rip them for the sake of speed? Probably. Even the imports.

Perhaps we should've waited until they officially abandoned the thing.

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# ryanhall 2011-01-03 18:11
holy shit!

are you shittin' me?

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# Nick 2011-01-03 18:19
THIS.....IS.....EPIC!!!!!!!!

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# meep.o.matic 2011-01-03 18:36
You would only be able to run ISOs, PSX eboots, VSH menu and recovery menu through the aid of .prx right? Also every piece of unofficial code that came out before this would have to be signed so that it would be compatible with OFW. CFW does all this “automaticaly” That’s why I’m more “fond” of it.

Still being able to sign your own code is a fricking HUGE advance!! I expected service mode on unhackable boards before this… And (Noob question) how does the ability to sign code affects the pre-IPL issue? PSP isn’t completely open until it’s security mesures are rendered useless.
If I’m correct this is the only thing standing on the way of the PSP 3000+GO and “full” CFW

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# 10$man 2011-01-03 19:02
So how do you sign apps using this encryption key? I am assuming the team has made there own signer. wonderin if its gonna get released?

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# Wallcore 2011-01-03 19:21
i do not understand the point...
My PS3 does not get hacked, because i want to play with my friends online.
and my PSP CAN play all games, which are out

so why does this information be necessary for me?
E-Mail me for answeres please

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# iDiScRiMiNaTe 2011-01-03 20:02
Bad news diz is wen the scene dies if ps3 because no more fun in making home brew every 1 starts pirating sony wont have money dey stop making the psp,ps buh i think ppl still gunna buy games 2 play online

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# Gamma287 2011-01-03 20:30
Yeah, I hated buying Crash Bandicoot 2 and Spyro 1 & 2 again. I had more PS1 games once upon a time and I was a member of Underground.

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# Flasher 2011-01-03 20:45
I am overjoyed with this news for the PSP, since homebrew is what is keeping it alive, but this is the end of PS3. If piracy is what now (unfortunately) sustains the PSP, it will deestroy the PS3. The PSP is almost dead. The PS3 is still going strong. Please don't kill it now.

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# Kerlon 2011-01-03 20:54
The DS and the Wii didn't die because Nintendo aimed them at little kids and old people, a steady market for these brain games and motion sports games. The PSP and the PS3 however, a more hardcore gaming consoles aimed at dedicated button-mashers who, one way or the other, will try to make their system do more than Sony currently allows them to.

And oh, if Sony really want to stop piracy, they need to stop attacking the PSP and used game market here in the US and Europe. Go around the world. Travel to places like Southern Asia and Africa. Those people are stealing their asses off, and no one can stop them. I can't blame these pirates either, because these game developers don't sell their games there, at least not through accredited businesses. A 10 dollar game could easily cost 75 dollars in these places. Create a market in these places, stop hounding us, treat your customers right and Sony can revive their consoles. Till then, HACK AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!

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# flyingsackofpoop 2011-01-03 21:08
So, Sony, once again, the homebrew community extends a hand to you. Will you join us and help improve your potentially-great consoles and make them actually worth the obscene amounts of cash we, the consumers, paid for them? Or are you going to try to keep this cat-and-mouse game up till you're finally pwned again in epic fashion by the developers?


Your call, Sony. Your call.

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# flyingsackofpoop 2011-01-03 21:18
The sad thing is that you will be using this same technology when it is released. Sad.

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# Walker 2011-01-03 21:25
It's Sony's fault. If they hadn't goofed and made it so easy to run homebrew off the first OFW with little or absolutely no tweaking, CFW or homebrew of any kind would probably not have happened. Looking at how complete and unstoppable PS2 modding was, they should have been more vigilant with their handheld if they really hated homebrew so much.

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# NEWSFLASH 2011-01-03 21:34
The codes have been released. They're on Malthieulh Hervais' Twitlonger page or something. (Sorry, I don't use Twitter or other such things.)

http://www.twitlonger.com/show...

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# Tuo 2011-01-03 21:38
Once I pay 170 dollars for it, it becomes MY security system, MY game console. I can do whatever I want as long as I don't infringe on other's rights. Those rights include playing ISOs of games you don't have, which I strongly oppose.

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# Emb3rSil 2011-01-03 21:42
Wouldn't CFWs still be necessary for ISO loading? Or at least ISOs signed with the key?

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# NeCrom-X 2011-01-03 21:42
They can patch this. It's a major pain in the ass to but it's fixable.

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# NeCrom-X 2011-01-03 21:46
They could make an ISO loader and sign the program. Then load the ISOs from the loader.

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# Flasher 2011-01-03 22:54
Yes, it can be patched. By changing the hardware or the keys, thereby making it impossible to run older games, which make up the bulk of the PSP market. Same with the PS3. Nope. It ain't so easy to patch it.

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# ? 2011-01-03 23:00
Well, anyone could sign a program to boot in recovery mode, so yes.

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# ? 2011-01-03 23:10
From what I understand, this failure allowed hackers to mathematically derive Sony's private signing keys. This is not an exploit in the encryption (although an exploit was used to do it) - it's game over. Anything signed with these keys will be identical to if Sony signed it themselves, because they are the very same keys.

They can never fix it, either - anything not signed with these particular keys wouldn't run (that's the entire point of encryption). They'd have to push an update signed with the existing keys that changes all code to use a different signing key, and this has a few problems:
-Anyone could just patch that out of the update and re-sign it.
-All existing games would stop working, since they aren't signed with the new key.
-It's not even possible because a lot of that code is burned into ROM where it can never be changed, period.

The best they could do is change the firmware of all new units to use a new signing key and have a hash-based whitelist of all existing games so that it would accept those without allowing them to be modified (even if signed). And since they weren't clever enough to use a hash tree, they'd have to go through the entire disc and hash every single byte every time you try to start a game, which would take bloody forever.

So yeah, pwned, game over, epic fail. (I'm no crypto expert so do feel free to correct me on these points...)

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# ? 2011-01-03 23:16
Look at Wii. Homebrew Channel is so easy to install and use yet only 1% of users have it. No matter how easy you make piracy, there are going to be plenty who still buy the games.

(I realize Homebrew Channel is not a piracy tool, but I figure most of the pirates probably have it installed too.)

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# JJ 2011-01-03 23:20
this mean we can play ps3 game for free?

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# guenthar 2011-01-03 23:57
You could sign the games and play them off of the psp just like playing games downloaded from the psn.

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# guenthar 2011-01-03 23:59
They can't fix this without breaking all current psp games since the only way to fix it would be by removing the access for code signed by the current key and putting a new one in.

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# guenthar 2011-01-04 00:07
There won't be any developers switching to other systems over this since all of those other systems are already hacked.

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# ? 2011-01-04 00:21
And what good is a UMD dumper going to do on a system with no disc drive?

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# viteh 2011-01-04 00:28
bullshit!

wii hacking is as easy as copy/pasting. xbox 360 was hacked long ago too. both are still alive.

why would the ps3 have a different fate?

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# ? 2011-01-04 00:29
Heh, once you have the signing keys, it's not even really hacking anymore... You can just go through the same process any official developer would.

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# ? 2011-01-04 00:30
They could already do that now, you'd just need CFW to run it like any other homebrew.

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# adam0000 2011-01-04 00:45
for everyone complaining on how piracy will cripple sony and games will stop being made, stuff it.

people who even know about the ps3 being cracked open, ps3 dongles to play games off hdd. there are not alot of people who know about this stuff!!!!! i try to talk to people about it and since its so groundbreaking to me, i get looked at like an alien. the pirate thats 1 in 100 shouldnt be looked at so bad because the other 99 people go out to walmart and buy their games normally thus creating money for devs and sony.

so lets not hear how piracy cripples the gaming industry.

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# ram 2011-01-04 01:22
for everyone thinking sony migt be powerless maybe they have a secret ultimate biggest mosy dangerous weapon called the psp defier what if the psp defier can shut down all psp's in just one blink even if it is protected by some thing maybe they planned and did this a long time ago and ittl completely shut down ur psp nothing will work all every psp's in the whole wide world remeber ppl sony is powerful

but still OMFG THIS IS AWESOME HEY a question here does this mean we do not have to get cfw and play isos directly through you XMB???? pls answer

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# d 2011-01-04 01:42
That whole "now it's cracked, no games" logic kind of falls apart when you look at the DS now doesn't it?

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# EEK 2011-01-04 02:14
Idk if any1 thought of this or not but the psp2 hasn't been released yet and their useing different software on it so it probably wont work on the psp2 when its released. My oppinion is the smart one should have waited till that was released to see if it worked on there before anounceing it cuz now even if it would have worked im sure sony will change up the software even more so that the same method can not be used. Oh well, still gonna have unlimited use of my psp before to long though.

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# EEK 2011-01-04 02:44
Ok, I searched all over google yahoo and msn and all I can find directly from failOverflow is that they hacked the ps3 but nothing about the psp. I don't believe shit till they say it themselves and they said they don't have a youtube or facebook account and that those ppl are just scammers. Idk, ill wait and see, get used to the wait and see after being in the hacking scene for the better part of the past 3 years.

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# kebrus 2011-01-04 04:17
what about the wii and the 360? both got pirated a long ago... better yet, how about the ps2? it's just the best successful console yet and there's a ton of different ways to pirate it

a pirated copy doesn't equal a lost sale

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# DeathThrash 2011-01-04 04:40
idk if any1 realizes this but it also leads to a jump in sales, of the system that is, i mean thats the only reason i bought a ps3 and psp (a 2nd time). if the jailbreak/cfw was never released i can honestly say i wouldnt have bought ither system...

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# annson08 2011-01-04 04:57
@kebrus yeah you're right, well of course there will be loss of sales but not that much to end SONY's career.

remember our beloved ps1?, even after piracy happened then, sony didn't stop making games until they got bored.

then ps2 came, ps2 games soon have been pireted after the release of the console and still sony got high sales, that's why until now ps2 games are still being made.

so don't look at this as a bad rather a great thing, sony can still make alot of money and we will soon see another console made by them.

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# TheGuyInTheCorner 2011-01-04 05:03
.....Here we go!

1-Dreamcast died because the failure of the Saturn left Sega with such a low budget margin they couldn't afford to sign on many of the games that were coming out on the ps1 and ps2 and Sega decided to cut their loses and become a software specific company. Piracy of it's games occured later.

2-PSP made the sales it did because it was originally open source. The reason many games quit being made was because it's games kept getting bad reviews so they cut their losses and many games ment to come out over the last two years were delayed for the psp2 since it would basically be a portable ps2. Piracy effected it very little. If anything it boosted sales for it...

3-PS3 is not okay, it's great. It's hardware and software statistics match with some of the most common computer gaming setup. Piracy has hurt it very little and within 2 years (it's been around for more than a half a decade already by the way, one of the longest running systems outside ps2) they are going to announce the next ps platform and online gaming isn't fully manipulatable with a hacked system anyways. Plus they went back to the layering discs like with the ps1, (which is why modern ones don't use ps2 software, it can be manipulated and opens weaknesses) so making a fake disc it all but impossible with a full on hack job.

4-The PS2 was hackable, it's still one of the top selling systems in the world and it's over a decade old.

5-The PS1's disc design and software made it one of the hardware platforms to ever hack and most game pirating from it came from companies overseas making them, not one or two people.
DVD, you need to do some research but you waste time typing so I don't have to keep correcting you.

The fact it's been done is great. Proving once again human ingenuity and perseverance can pervail. No security system is great until it's proven outdated. Just because it's been done doesn't mean it must be abused but it lets us know that when my ps3 becomes as outdated as my psp phat I'll be able to do more with it than stare at it like I did my xbox before I took a sledgehammer to it. Thanks for the great work, fail0verflow and Mathieulh. Can't wait to see what great things come from your dedications blueprints.

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# Jorge 2011-01-04 05:12
BOOOOOO......BOOOOOOO...BOOOOOOOOO

Get over it.

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# kurropt0 2011-01-04 05:39
Congratulations . So far the best news Ive recieved in the new year.

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# free 2011-01-04 07:38
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAH YEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEES DAMMIT YEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEESSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSS

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# gwilberto 2011-01-04 08:16
I know this is a stupid question but im gonna risk being mild insulted and ask: How do we encrypt things with these keys? Will there be a GUI that runs on the psp, a bit like patching ISOs or what have you?

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# adequate 2011-01-04 08:53
how foolish of you people to be so happy about this...
of course im happy too.. but i have a one question for you people. If you are the who one make the sony psp or other game consoles of sony and your business got ruined bcoz of the hackers who keeps ruining everything (of course by everything you know what I mean) what will you do??

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-04 09:13
The thing is there wont be a NEED for CFW except for plugins. Any homebrew application, hell, even iso loaders are all being done on the eboot level, which just needs a mere signing to work on OFW.

Thats like saying "windows is customizable so its COS (Custom Operating System". I dont want nor need to write my own kernel, therefore I simply avoid it if possible.

In any case, I did mistake my own writings, because you're correct. CFW will still be around for those who want it. However, its use will signifigantly drop. Especially because pirates will only want the iso loader, not plugins or homebrew.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-04 09:16
PS3 has been unhackable for 4 years if I'm not mistaken (got that from failoverflow vid), and when compared to most other consoles which fell after 12 months, sonys simple encryption actually worked very well.

That said, its been 4+ years since a new generation of consoles has hit the market, so sony will probably use this opportunity to make the next gen console with even stronger security.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-04 09:18
What part were you refering to again?

Sony's most likely going to cut their losses on the psp because theyre probably launching PSP2 in 2011 Q1

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-04 09:23
Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker
Valkryia Chronicles II
What Did I Do To Deserve This My Lord?! 2
No Heroes Allowed!
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Portable
Phantasy Star Portable 2
Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep

All of which released on UMD in the USA during 2010.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-04 09:27
its like half the people here (not you mike) cant use the reply button.

If you want to go by technicalities, HEN would be CFW aswell. So why are we calling it HEN and not CFW?

Yes, CFW will still be desired by those who want it. And plugins still will be nice to have, in example, Time Battery Percent is one I'm fond of. Another is CXMB. NEITHER of these have been incorporated into a CFW when a majority of the people want it and download it.

Now, if you want to make us all a CFW to run everything and support everything, not to mention personally sign every eboot you come across, be my guest. Otherwise, we already get the point; CFW wont die. It'll drop in use as more eboots are signed, and will remain with those who want the VSH menu and plugins. And before you say anything else, you said it yourself; Any modified firmware is CFW.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-04 09:31
just as an thought to elaborate on, by no means a argument (because I agree with your points)

DS is hackable though a flash card, hence no drop in sales. (because a majority of the hackers are too lazy to buy devices to hack)

Now that the psp requires virtually nothing to hack it, since we just sign our code, wouldnt that make it on a worst level than anything else hackable? (In the sense that sony will lose devs)

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-04 09:35
And do your own homework, stop copying off of other people.

DS, PSP, PS3, PS2, XBox, Xbox 360, Wii, hell, even GameCube, all hacked.

DS still has high sales and plenty of cheap games coming out.
PSP still has plenty of title releases, scroll above to see them in several replies.
PS3 is in the same boat as psp
PS2 still is on the market and still having new games published.
Xbox is dead due to its successor.
360 still has a large player base, and plenty of new games coming out.
Wii isnt doing hot because of devs not using the system. Nintendo also doesnt like publishing more mature games *cough*grandthe ftautolikegames *cough*
Gamecube also fell to its successor.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-04 09:37
the only thing I'm going to elaborate on is japans policy on open source.

I know that its illegal to use linux in japan, but firefox is not. Both are open source.

I think the policy is this; Any open Source program that can potentially support piracy is illegal.

Which would mean Sony has to keep their code as closed source, and which would explain the ban on linux.

I'm probably wrong, but thats what I've been told from friends whove visited japan.

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# jacklol 2011-01-04 09:38
Wait, what? PS3 sub HD games? biggest selling point bluray drive? lol
Games won't stop being launched just because there's hacks out there, who the fuck told you that? A lot of consoles had hacks like the PS2, and it was a freaking success. Not to mention the big exclusive library from the PS3, that can beat most multiplatform games out there. You're right about the fail start, but since 2008, they have been putting things in order.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-04 09:43
1: a PC isnt necessarily a Console. And most of windows/mac is indeed a signed closed code. Infact, using unsigned coding is a violation of your EULA of windows, that much I know for sure, which in turn is indeed illegal.
2: Its illegal for ANY company to sell ANYTHING that condones piracy. The problem is Piracy is too generic of a term, and homebrew many time falls under that term.
3: Its also illegal and unlawful, not to mention a violation of your ToS/EULA to modify the original software of many devices (including windows, where windows retains the modification rights (yea, you're pretty much just buying the license to USE windows, not modify it on the kernel level) to its kernel. Technically, if anyone bothered to read the EULA on the updates, its against the terms of use to modify the XMB and sony's original firmware IN ANY WAY.

Please do your homework before you post idiotic things liek this. I know I'm wrong 25% of the time, but at least I do my homework.

Oh and a protip; dont trust Google.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-04 09:44
The HARDWARE is yours to do with whatever you wish (but any modification is a void of the warranty, which sony can and does do)

The SOFTWARE is NOT yours. The SOFTWARE belongs to sony.

Thats all I'm going to contribute to this string.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-04 09:47
the thing is you dont sign it. When things are developed, they just get signed by the developer automatically to work on both OFW and CFW.

But, your point is indeed valid; Older homebrew apps most likely will be abandoned and remain unsigned. Thats going to be one of hte big reasons CFW will still be around.

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# Miles Cadre 2011-01-04 09:48
You personalyl dont do the signing unless you know how to hexcode.

So unless you're a developer, this is just news to say that you may not need CFW within the next month. Or, that perma CFW may make its first debut on the "unhackables".

The possibilities are truely endless.

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# TonyaTank 2011-01-04 10:04
For a HUGE corporation who had piracy up the ying yang on all their HUGELY successful consoles - I have no sympathy for them using a completely botched cyrpto algo and storing all their A+ system keys in this botched system. Should sony go under it may be for the better with the gaming world. They proven with their PS3 they can't do anything. OtherOS was their only saving grace from all this...

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# jace2 2011-01-04 10:40
Now all PSPgo users on 6.31 and 6.35 have HEN available for it, it uses the minna no sukkiri exploit, and the Prometheus ISO loader DOES work, check out wololo's blog or qj for it!

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# Squishy 2011-01-04 10:51
The ds also has piracy, even though you need to buy a flashcard to pirate, you can also emulate it on your pc, so you don't even have to buy the system.

With the psp, you have to at least buy the system if you want to pirate because there are no psp emulators (that work decently).

Is the ds dead? No.

Psp wont die either, if you make a good system with good games, it will sell, period.

People have been saying pc gaming is dead for 10 years, and it never died. Sony wont die because of this either.

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# kick_ur_ass_goodbye 2011-01-04 11:03
maybe at they're downfall at least we should respect sony coz they made great console to play great games... they let us enjoy games that feeds us in utterly ecstasy

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# NeCrom-X 2011-01-04 17:06
Yea but it would be easier to have a loader instead of signing every iso. You could just rip and play with a loader while patching ISOs can confuse people. Also Official Firmware doesn't load ISOs (correct me if I'm wrong) at all every PSN download is an EBOOT even games that came on UMD also so you would have to patch EBOOTs and put them in your GAME folder not a ISO folder.

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# NeCrom-X 2011-01-04 17:14
They can make it so newer games require a new key and saying oh well to the older games as people will still buy them on PSN that don't know about hacking their PSP. The PS3 can be fixed by firmware update then a forced rebuilding of your catalog.

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# NeCrom-X 2011-01-04 17:23
And how are they going to connect? Magic you can't sign into PSN on a hacked PSP and if your online doing anything else with it Sony can't do shit your just another device using the internet. Unless you magically sign into psn and Sony detects it nothing can happen. I really hope that was a joke and you don't really believe that lol

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# NeCrom-X 2011-01-04 17:31
Sony could survive just on their other electronic sales the PS3 is actually very small part of their income when you consider they make TVs, Amplifiers, Cellphone, Laptops, all kinds of OEM devices that PC manufactures use just to name a few things....

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# Dean Gullberry 2011-01-04 17:45
HEN will only be needed temporarily for newer systems. Someone will make a signed firmware update file that everyone can use, which will allow homebrew/isos/etc "out of box".

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# soopergooman 2011-01-04 18:45
You people got it all wrong. If sony stops making games/consoles then all you will have is homebrew. Also having the keys is sony's property. they created em thus they own em. Can see a slew of lawsuits coming shortly. This is nice to have but might destroy sony's gaming division and then you have the rest of the world of non hacking gamers pissed at you. By reading in the past year what some gamers do when turned completely angry, I'd get myself a bulletproof vest. PEOPLE WILL BE EFFIN MAD IF SONY SHUTS DOWN THEIR GAMING DIVISION BECAUSE OF THIS. Geohot could see a HUGE Class Action suit against him. Same with team failflow and all the rest. I'd be wary and they shouldnt have released this yet. It wouldnt be that hard for sony to release a FW update that changes said internal keys.....so that the ones found do NOT match it and any and all ps3's using em bricked in the process, with no chance of repair... think about that before you say " ha ha fuck you sony" they gave you ur precious toy to mess with, dont fuck it up for the rest of us.

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# Red 2011-01-04 19:11
Soopergooman, you're an idiot.

1. Sony's game division won't shut down. A PS4 or PSP2 release can easily fix this or they can just sit down and do nothing. Too few people pirate games, let alone hack their systems to cause any major problems. If anything, this should boost their sales.

2. A firmware update can't fix this, and even if it can, the new keys will prevent older games from running, which will REALLY piss off PS3 and PSP owners.

3. Once the PS3 or PSP gets into MY hands, after I have paid for them, I can do whatever I want with them, including unlocking them anyway I want without infringing on anyone's rights. They can't sue anyone. The best Sony could do is to bribe Mathieulh, which is pretty useless in this case, because the keys are already out there.

4. Since you're so averse to hacking, what are you doing here?

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# MS-25 2011-01-04 19:54
@Red
You got number 3 wrong. Technically it is illegal to mod your console, even if you have payed for it. Sony has that shit trade marked and when you mod the console you are infringing on the trade mark.

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# aNOOB 2011-01-04 19:55
Does this mean I might be able to have permanant CFW on my PSP 3000?

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# 5zar 2011-01-04 20:38
Pretty cool. Hopefully someone will correct me BUT:

What we have here is the keys to sign homebrew code, right? It's of no use for the end-user right now...
So a future possibility is some dev putting out an EBOOT file encrypter that can be executed from the PC.

You run the executable in your PC, encrypt the EBOOT file with it, put the encrypted file in your PSP/PS3 with OFW and you are now able to run homebrew in OFW.

amidoinitrite?

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# Red 2011-01-04 21:04
The only thing Sony can do is void the warranty. I'm completely within my rights to mod it and run homebrew games unless I engage in piracy.

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# Ruptur3d 2011-01-04 21:16
@DVD
troll.

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# Thirsttyyy 2011-01-04 21:32
Means we can do shit with our consoles, fill it with shit or homebrews regardless of everything

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# Frankelier 2011-01-04 21:36
I hope to see bookr in any psp without costume firmware

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# Erwin 2011-01-04 22:15
So... What are the keys? I don't know, JUST BEEN WAITING TO SIGN MY OWN CFW! PARTY DOWN!

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# Emb3rSil 2011-01-04 22:36
So we still need an encrypter/decrypter for the desktop. Cool. I can wait. I'll stick with 5.50 GEN-D3 for now.

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# Crash 2011-01-04 22:40
Oh yes it does my friend... yes it does.

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# Crash 2011-01-04 22:48
I don't know what some guys are crying about. The games on PC are super easy to hack, search a torrent site and you will see all the recent games there, and companies still produce games for PC. Games will still be made for PSP even if a custom signed firmware comes out.

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# tidus0520 2011-01-04 23:46
The PSP was not dead at least in Japan. PSP is still number in sales...

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# v.a 2011-01-05 01:46
how about the bricked PSP (TA-088v3)??
is there any hope for it this time??

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# Matt 2011-01-05 01:47
My psp might be hacked, but I still buy every good game that comes out for it. I do the same with my PC. I wish sony would just stop ISO loading instead of blocking out homebrew software completely. Theres nothing wrong with homebrew.

Anyway, I don't think it'll make a huge impact on the PS3 or the PSP, the majority of the market are probably people who wouldn't know the first thing about pirating.

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# Nathen Fredrick 2011-01-05 05:36
I agree with Matt. ISO loaders are a bad thing.

I'm hoping that someone like the original XBMC can be brought over to the PS3 and PSP, although with the PSP being "open" for so long, if they were going to do it they'd have done it by now.

If you haven't seen the latest XBMC, it looks fantastic, and the sooner it's brought to the Sony consoles the

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# SF4DETH 2011-01-05 06:10
I'm sorry DVD but your an idiot. This is going to do nothing but up the sales of the PS3 and PSP. Why don;t you go ahead and do some research and look at Sony's sales figures before and after the PSJailbreak first came out. They have more then tripled and its because people love to run homebrew. EVERY console has piracy, (Literally every single one) and this is a high selling point for these consoles. People want to run their own code and homebrew, unfortunately there is piracy but that plagues EVERY CONSOLE AND COMPANY and has for a long time. This is not going to "Kill" the PS3 or the PSP. Piracy is there and it always has been. There are far more legitimate owners of these consoles then users that pirate software. It is just retarded to say this will kill the systems. The only thing that will come of this is INCREASED sales. So next time you want to make a bold statement trying to make your self sound like the All Knowing God of game consoles, do some research before you open your mouth. I'll even throw you a bone, You can learn all kinds of things from this amazing website called Google. If you had bothered to do some research before making your statement you could have saved yourself from looking like an uneducated hick living in the woods playing with his lincoln logs. Happy day

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# dog 2011-01-05 07:57
jusus man take a chill pill

once a console is hacked sales increase for sure,, but who is to say if its people that want to run homebrew or people that want to run illigal games, how do you know?

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# EliteForce23 2011-01-05 08:15
wahahahah... this is NICE!

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# ? 2011-01-05 08:39
If the keys are the same, then why do newer games require system updates before working?

(If thats the case then I'll just update since the updates can't change the value of the keys)

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# Kyoukan 2011-01-05 09:38
So, I've been doing bit of looking around, and a little bit of twitter stalking, but I can't seem to find the PSP KIRK Keys...Have they been released yet, or is it just the PS3 Keys so far?

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# vin35 2011-01-05 11:17
omg. ahahaha no firmware update is going to stop this one... it's both good news and bad news for sony.. the good news is that many people will buy psp/ps3, making sony's pocket fatter. the bad news is that the game developers will have second thoughts on releasing their games.. but then again,surely, some people would still prefer to buy games rather than downloading a copy 'cause some games are worth buying and collecting...

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# Nabbo 2011-01-05 11:26
This news declares the end of PSP... its really sad... i miss it.. PSP's last hope is crushed...

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# marcux 2011-01-05 13:30
You guys DO realize that Sony LOSES money on every PS3 sale right? hoping they make the money back in game sales. Maybe before calling people hicks, you should know what your talking about before you sound like an idiot.

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# CDR 2011-01-05 13:52
yeah i agree with dvd, all the piracy has already made microsoft and nintendo go out of business and has stopped production of all psp related items... /end sarcasm

lol people who come to a place called "psp-hacks" to preach.

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# Mike 2011-01-05 14:25
While PSP/PS3 "Firmware" has OS-like features (GUI, settings, etc), you can't really compare something as massive as a real OS to a FW. Even iOS can be considered a misnomer as it really isn't an Operating System so much as a Firmware for handheld Apple devices. An OS is designed to be customizeable/editable to a degree, whereas a FW is not. Got a better analogy?

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# Xi Bit 2011-01-05 14:34
Well from what i understand, if it's the same as PS3 you need a loader to load iso games, and from what i know you could create a CFW with this loader built in and just sign it and then flash to PSP. But i think a loader need to do some syscall's wich is in the .self file, so i think you still need a CFW but with the keys out in the open, no one need a pandora battery any more to flash (unless it bricks).

I'm don't have a PSP any more, and last i had any thing to do with it was when i released "TOTALNewbi easyInstaller" back in the day's if any one can remember. So pleas do not flame me if the firmware dosen't work like the PS3 with self and all that :)

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# Mike 2011-01-05 14:41
Because HEN is not incorporated into the FW. Any given HEN is essentially an exploit for a FW that the HEN was written for. HEN is not so much a modification as it is a hole in the FW.

Now that we have the keys for the FW's, you probably will see more/better incorporations as it got that much easier to implement. Again, I say this will cause more FW's, not fewer. At the very least, there will be enough modifications to allow current plugins and tweaks to make it Custom.

I haven't even talked about eboots because, as you said, the freely available Sony signature has made FW modification in that respect unnecessary. The thing to remember is that eboots aren't the only things that the PSP hacking scene is about.

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# Orgazmo 2011-01-05 15:09
For me this is a good thing....
I currently have a wii, modded with software and a usb loader. This set up is great as my kids damage cd's/dvd's when ever they are near them.
If i can have my ps3 with the same set up, then great.
I would still buy the games, im just protecting my investment.

On another note..... Sony will ride this out, tbh they have had a good run with the ps3 with reguards piracy.

Can we see a ps4???? The ps3 is fully upgradeable.

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# Orgazmo 2011-01-05 15:15
How can this be thr end for psp?????????

I know alot of peeps who mod and even more that dont.

Sony have customers to serve.... They wont let game developers pull out surely.

As for peeps saying about the xbox... Y would you want a system that uses a dead format that is not compatible with films..... I see a ps3 as an entertainment hub... I love my nas drive lol...

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# Alex 2011-01-05 15:17
if im not mistaken Sony was loosing money with the original PS3, but, again if I'm not mistaken, that stopped when they striped it and put the ps3 slim on the market. Then they were either making a profit or at the very least breaking even. On top of that they no longer loose money when I bought an original used 60gb PS3 for $485 US dollars. So I don't understand. Also like to add that when the Illuminati exploit came out for psp using the original lumines game, the sales of the game jumped something like 400% so if that's not boosting Sony's profits I don't know what is.

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# Orgazmo 2011-01-05 15:23
How can sony loose money on selling a ps3. That does not make sense, ok maybe when it was 1st released. But they have changed there manufacturing method ect.... O and i would think that if they lost money on each system then the share holders would have something to say....
These are just my nooobish views on the matter lol.

I just hpe for a usb loader :)

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# TiCo. 2011-01-05 15:52
I hope someone can create v3 2000 and 3000 pandora tool with this. I bought working repairable said PSP-2000 some mounts ago but is it fail flashed v3 2000 it had blue screen of death.
Its a working pandora to the v3 2000 and maybe 3000 can help recovery for the thuosands of lame flashed psp motherboards (like a original pandora some years ago).

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# Crash 2011-01-05 17:27
I agree with you. Don't you find strange Sony didn't patch all exploits on the next firmwares after 6.20. Might this be a stunt to sell more consoles?

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# theinv 2011-01-05 20:38
the code keys have already been updated and changed thur sony...all this is usless.

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# lurher349 2011-01-05 20:52
psp was end of life anyways. psp2 due out this year. but rember this all started because sony removed linux. hackers where leaving the system alone due to that mostly. the first hack was to enable rsx in linux witch sony shoulda never blocked. then they pulled linux so the hackers said fine you wanna play that we will hack the security and well they did. and now the ps3 and psp just got busted wide open. psp being sony stupid enough to have its keys on the ps3. so much for there 10 year release cycle im sure they are scattering to make ps4 now. but in the end sony did it to themselves. seems to be the trend with that company.

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# Crash 2011-01-05 23:22
I'm sorry but that is incorrect. If they change the keys old games will not work.

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# clockdryve 2011-01-06 01:06
Put MEDIA GO on your computer and download the content from PSN to your computer....then you can DATA connect your PSP to your computer and install on PSP WITHOUT needing to UPDATE your PSP :) Google for the "Media Go" software (a Sony download)....

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# mosh511 2011-01-06 01:23
Yeah, because the Wii is a secure system? lol

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# saM 2011-01-06 03:48
i would say ,achievement unlocked ,but we're not hacking xboxes here

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# EEK 2011-01-06 07:44
i take back my earlyer comment about that i couldnt find anything anywhere about failOverflow working with this on the psp BUT i found an interview that the failOverflow team made yesterday and it stated that the keys for the ps3 can also be used on the psp. i said id wait and see like always and this time i was honestly kinda shocked but at the same time its about damn time the psp is jailbroken.

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# EEK 2011-01-06 08:07
btw, ever think sony aint done? what about all those memory sticks u have to put all ur crap on? sony makes a profit off of those, to be honest as far as the psp gos thats probably where they get the biggest profit cuz in order to save ur games or save anything like music or photos or movies or even with piracy saveing those huge game files it takes up space which causes ppl to need to go out and spend money on normaly a sony memory stick cuz idk about other places but around here sony memory sticks are the cheapest i can find and a 2gb is i forget i think its about $20 but who wants that when they can get an 8gb which is about $100

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# IDK 2011-01-06 08:17
hey the psp isn't the only product sony has so why will their income crash?

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# joe schmoe 2011-01-06 09:14
a possible fix for this is to require an internet connection for online play and then to sign the new encryption with a time stamp from the time this hack was released. In order to use the old encryption your game must be created previous to that date.

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# Lord Léo 2011-01-06 10:21
how long you think to appear a new custom firmware compatible with 6.2?
Thanks

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# maui454 2011-01-06 13:26
It does bring negative things to the scene. Like being able to cheat online I am not looking forward to that.

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# Crash 2011-01-06 14:11
A lot of companies make games for PC and all PC games are pirated. Do you see those companies crash?

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# stOne 2011-01-06 14:37
the psp isn't really being developed further anymore anyway. there will hardly be any new games. psp2 is in the works. this is hardly going to hurt sony at all. it's a great thing to revive the psp. they may actually get an increase in sales once every tom, dick and harry can play whatever they want with it.

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# lambo 2011-01-06 17:00
so how exactly do we use these codes?

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# Crash 2011-01-06 17:45
You still don't unless you're a dev.

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# PDXuzuki 2011-01-06 19:39
Where's Linux w/ full access to the hardware? Dare I say a BSD maybe? The ability to run whatever you want using the hardware the way it was meant to be used would probably still sell the box.

A PS2 emu would be icing on the cake.

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# douchebag 2011-01-07 07:59
srsly, I'm actually annoyed that people like you don't realise what your saying is:

obvious, unoriginal, wrong, no-one cares about your personal opinion..

I'm also annoyed at myself for posting because i'm being slightly hypocritical, though i justify myself because at least I realise it.

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# Jim 2011-01-07 12:20
So will I eventually be able to download a "signed" SNES emulator and play SNES roms without having to downgrade or any of that?

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# Capilar America 2011-01-07 13:32
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH HH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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# Sony 2011-01-07 14:16
Hell I hope sony goes out of business, I'm tried of overpaying for worthless shit(their computers, mp3/4 players, accessories, game systems, etc.) They're like the apple of the windows and gaming world.

Hopefully sony does get out of the gaming business, it will make room for a real system manufacturer like SEGA to get back into the game. Still use my Saturn and Dreamcast to play games more than I can say for my xboxs or playstation since both of those are only still around because they are hacked, banned, or because they make an alright media player and wouldn't be worth the trouble to try and sell or because they play my SEGA MegaDrive roms.

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# Sony 2011-01-07 14:20
Trophy Received?

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# GAK 2011-01-07 16:55
If you can actually sign anything, why don't you sign the Prometheus ISO loader and retire in fame and glory to a nice French Polynesian island. Oh, that's right, you can't sign anything useful, just "Hello World" programs. Sorry, my bad.

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# OOO 2011-01-07 21:34
Can this unbrick PSPs?

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# christianncg 2011-01-08 01:23
Jesus christ. this is the end of a good long journey of work arounds and hacks. it was fun and all, and i hope to see operating systems on the psp and the ps3 as well. cheers.

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# Nelson 2011-01-08 02:06
A crime is a crime.
Whatever you say feeding of the talent of others with nothing in return is plain bad.

If you were them, would you be glad if the thing you invested on and created with blood and sweat was just taken away with nothing in return in a whim....

Honestly, No..

I, myself am guilty of this and am nowhere proud of it.

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# inuyasha555 2011-01-08 14:45
LOL, so can I sign checks in Sony's name? LOL. xD

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# iguanaman 2011-01-08 16:11
You could look at this as a wake up call for Sony. This could cause Sony to be pushed in the direction of supporting an open development model similar to the Android market. In light of these events, I expect they have little choice.

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# zanchius 2011-01-08 17:48
Well, step into a Game store in London, and the amount of people buying games will tell you otherwise...

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# kupomogli 2011-01-08 21:19
The best selling games being the most downloaded isn't true. Two of the most pirated games are Dissidia Final Fantasy and Phantasy Star Portable 2. While Dissidia Final Fantasy has over a million sales, it's been pirated six times as much. Phantasy Star Portable 2 has under a million sales and has been pirated over four million times.

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# Crash 2011-01-09 00:25
Were exactly did you get those statistics from?

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# Capn 2011-01-09 11:04
That's dumb. Do you know how many people run homebrew on wii? After homebrew being out for about, what? 3 years now?

Just over one million.

After selling 84 million consoles, that means it's just barefuly over 1% of wii users. By now It may be a whopping 2%

Besides that, PSP outsold 360s, (65mil to 51mil)

PS3 only sold 46mil, which is by far the lowest, but not necessarily that bad, if every ps3 owner buys 3 games, which is pretty much NOTHING for a lot of gamers (casuals dont buy a ps3) then that's an instant 60-180 dollar profit on top of the PS3 sale itself.

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# Capn 2011-01-09 11:09
That was supposed to be @DVD

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# Flasher 2011-01-09 11:33
@Nelson What are you guilty of? Using legal homebrew to improve your system or using ISO loaders to pirate games? If the former is your crime, then congrats. You're the reason why the PSP still survives. If you're a pirate, however, then yeah, you might as well go hang yourself right now.

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# terratempest 2011-01-09 22:02
psp and ps3 sales are going to skyrocket, sony is fine..

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# danknugz 2011-01-10 09:27
to all those calling sony doomed because of this... the PSP has already been marked for death by sone ( surprising after the 10+year run by the ps2 , but devkits were already recalled last summer, so there will not be ANY more psp games coming out soon, the only way the psp will continue ( as much as i love it ,i got my first one in late 2005, but the psp has hardware limits) and the device has been hacked since mid 2005 and it is still going. sony makes most of its money from hardware and licensing , not game sales. this is a good thing for everyone if the hardware continues to sell. yes new games would be nice, but its not likely to continue for much longer. i know im barking at the moon since this post will be so far burried it wont be read but i had to throw that in .PSP is DEAD, LONG LIVE the PSP!!!

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# xmodsdude 2011-01-10 10:14
I think that the psp is at the end of its life cycle cause its about 5 years old and the hardware is not very powerful compared to what we have now. Most smart phones nowadays are more powerful. As for the ps3 it is also probably close to the end of its life cycle.

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# dex 2011-01-10 19:44
Can this sort of thing be patched by firmware updates? Or do we have a method of homebrew now that cannot be patched?

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# inuyasha555 2011-01-10 23:23
Nope, can't be patched unless hardware inside the device is changed.

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# SquallDNA 2011-01-11 00:03
To all the hypocrites out there... Do you think all 62,000,000 users of psp know or care about hacking their psp?!! Fucking NO! So quit whining like a pig! PSP will not die!

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# SquallDNA 2011-01-11 00:13
A lot of people complain a lot. As if they know what they're saying... Dont compare PSP with 62,000,000 unit sold to a dreamcast... And to all the whiners and complainers out thier you all hypos, why the hell are you even posting on this site if you're not aware of CFWs and stuff.. That just implies that you morons does some pirating to! Haha..gotcha!

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# Techni 2011-01-11 21:41
So, when is he actually going to release it?

Its not nice to tease people.

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# Techni 2011-01-11 21:43
Game sales will drop like a sack full of kittens in a river though. And they matter most

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# keel1982 2011-01-12 01:48
sony ask for it for a long time now. I say good for because in the begining of the psp sony said they would allow homebrew on the system and f**ked everyone and back out of that soooooo. good for them.

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# Nick 2011-01-12 10:10
So can I ask what all this means? Will there be a program or something that signs Homebrew?

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# BrokenMessiah 2011-01-12 23:43
So I can assume that when this gets released it will be a compiler along the lines of a patcher or maybe a library for devs.

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# Sukadikbich 2011-01-13 01:32
Everyone is fucking annoying...
Stop saying the same shit as everyone else and put a fucking release date or link up here.
All everyone is saying is "Sony is fucked" or talking about game sales.
Nobody cares about the technical shit...that's for the hackers
We just want what the hackers come out with and if your not supplying than this post is pointless.

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# Mr Fred 2011-01-13 04:28
Piracy Kills! In the six years I have seen the PSP raise to greatness, not just in sales but also in a company. If you remember in the late 80s and early 90s the video game war between Nintendo and Sega, you would have noticed the differences between them. There was Quality and there was Quantity. One company pumped out the games by the truck loads, the other put a little effort in their systems. They utilized the graphics and took full advantage of the systems full potential. Today we still see this in the "Big Three" Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft. All three are developing games from big names like; Naughty Dog, Sega, Atari, Ubisoft, Acclaim, Konami, Capcom and many others. These producers, programmers, testers, animators and everyone else in between all have to make a living too. Hackers make it hard for them and not to mention us too. They lose money when a game is downloaded from hackers sites, instead of buying it from a store. Let me just make it simple...people don't purchase the game legit, it flops and the producers don't make anymore. For example, I love the books by Phillip Pullman, especially His Dark Materials Trilogy, I waited six years to read all three. Then when at last I got the last book I seen the trailer for the upcoming movie for the first book. I was excited to say the least. I went to the midnight showing of the film, I loved it so much I went again the next day. I couldn't wait for the sequels. Then I read that the sequels were suspended per poor box office sales. Thats about the time I learned that there are site in which you can download movies games books pictures and many other media you can think of, for free, without consequence. I think the only consequence they may have is how slow the download is. Cheap @55 buggas.
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# Mr Fred 2011-01-13 04:51
@the idiot who thinks a smart phone is a PSP. A smart phone will only play stuff it gets from and App Store, made for that type of smart phone. Even if it was the same brand it has to be a particular model. You can have your stupid smart phone...
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# GreaterGood 2011-01-14 05:13
Honestly, don't you see? now that the PS3 and the PSP can run un-official software, the sales of new systems will boost exponentially? think about it. your a company who is barely making a profit on your Gaming Console, and your investors are chomping at the bit to make a juicy return on their money, what can you do. well looking at past sales, when the Pandora battery and jigkick memory stick hack was found, your sales boosted probably 20% on new PSP's. so why not make it so that someone can find the root keys and discover the most ground breaking console exploit of the modern era? that should stir up some major sales, and possibly convert xbox owners as they no longer need to spend 300-600 on a Jtagged console, and pay for keyvaults everytime they want to play online and hack.

brilliant? time will tell.

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# SQNY 2011-01-14 13:17
*sony smiles in the shadows*

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ok, now that is news, hopefully this will be awesome!

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Yeah, totally complaining for the wrong reasons... Yes, Sony makes about 2/3rds of their revenue from the electronics and videogames business.

Game sales = mainly income for game developers
Hardware sales = the real income

What's that? Why yes sir, some games are made in-house thus produce higher income for Sony, but that's all of about 10 games released for the PS3 at the moment(and in my personal opinion they aren't that spectacular). Those games released by other developers make an average income of around $10 per copy for Sony.

So what you should be doing is protesting for the developers who actually rely on game sales to stay afloat. Sony can take care of itself, even if they do make bad decisions and have to cut production/jobs because of it.

Might aswell start blaming pirates for the 5 years of Sony losing money in the TV business if you're going to blame us for Sony's current condition.

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# Berzerker665 2011-01-19 17:43
Wow this is epic,i love the hacker scene but i love competition even more, if sony and other game makers just crawl in a corner and die that will be a little disappointing, it should be all about the fight. i cant wait to see sony's counter attach to this.

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Just like all pirates, you have to make up some sort of bogus excuse why you pirate games and can't show respect to the developers who worked hard into creating these games.

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