SCEA and George Hotz Settle

Submitted by greg; April 11, 2011

I'm rather surprised to see geohot and SCEA have settled after all the nonsense, but hey I guess that's how these things work. I'm actually more surprised to read about it on the PlayStation blog. On March 31, Hotz and SCEA reached an agreement where Hotz in part agreed to back off, consenting to a permanent injunction, meaning he cannot hack and share anything PS3 ... ever! Now I wonder if the same applies to other Sony hardware. Hopefully Groklaw can obtain full details of the settlement. From the PlayStation blog:

Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA) and George Hotz (Hotz) today announced the settlement of the lawsuit filed by SCEA against Hotz in federal court in San Francisco, California. The parties reached an agreement in principle on March 31, 2011. As part of the settlement, Hotz consented to a permanent injunction. Both parties expressed satisfaction that litigation had been quickly resolved. Sony is glad to put this litigation behind us, said Riley Russell, General Counsel for SCEA. Our motivation for bringing this litigation was to protect our intellectual property and our consumers. We believe this settlement and the permanent injunction achieve this goal. It was never my intention to cause any users trouble or to make piracy easier, said Hotz, Im happy to have the litigation behind me. Hotz was not involved in the recent attacks on Sonys internet services and websites.

Now it's just Sony Vs. OtherOS'ers and Anonymous. - source: blog.us.playstation.com

Tags: Geohot, Injunction, SCEA, Sony

“Sony is glad to put this litigation behind us,” Since I'm sure it was extremely stressful for Sony. I'm sure Geohotz just laid at home chillin, not worried about this at all. Fuckin fat cat lawyers trying to make Sony seem like the good guy here by doing everyone a favor involved and allowing for a settlement. What a pile of shit. While I can't blame Geohotz he had said he would fight for our rights to modify hardware we own, yet he takes the first out he is given? Doesn't seem like much of a fight to me. I had really hoped this would end with the right for everyone to jailbreak their PS3 legally and without worries.

# James Soileau 2011-04-11 13:36

...... complete and utter nonsense.

# Scotty Dog 2011-04-11 13:36

Think Hotz has let down everyone that had donated to his legal bills. He said he was doing it for the freedom of peoples rights yet he is washing his hands in south america paid for with these donations tut tut

# see1ask1 2011-04-11 13:38

leave him alone. you got more then your fair share out of his work.

# prince_dari 2011-04-11 13:38

Quite disappointed considering what he said on his site -

"What if SCEA tries to settle?
Lets just say, I want the settlement terms to include OtherOS on all PS3s and an apology on the PlayStation blog for ever removing it. It'd be good PR for Sony too, lord knows they could use it. I'm also willing to accept a trade, a legit path to homebrew for knowledge of how to stop new firmwares from being decrypted."

- as people may have donated based on that, though I can't say I blame him for wanting this stupid lawsuit to end.

# see1ask1 2011-04-11 13:39

anyone can do with their system as they wish. it was the means to do it is the problem with sony.

# Mietek Zul 2011-04-11 13:41

Sony fails so much

# Scotty Dog 2011-04-11 13:55

he asked for donations to fight not too safe his bacon and settle. If he said he was going to settle then asked for donations think people would have stumped up their hard earned cash. turns out to be a farse waste of time money and resources

# Raymond M Hein Jr 2011-04-11 13:56

# top dog 2011-04-11 14:03

so dissapointing i guess this is going to be sony tactic from now on.

# Coby Smith 2011-04-11 14:12

So thats it??? It's over like that? I thought Geohotz was fighting for rights! Did he even get what he wanted?

# Ralkage 2011-04-11 14:12

To save ones own ass in place of many Playstation Users, fuck yeah I'd settle too and avoid butt rape. Why rack up on legal bills if backup managers was the first thing that attracted Sony's attention in the first place and the only thing you did was allow other packages to be installed on a system you own?

To be quite honest I just hope the scene sticks to making more brew than focusing on these stupid backup managers that have been nothing but trouble.

Geohot, ON TO EXPERIA PLAY NOW AND SOON NGP IN SECRECY!

# James Nash 2011-04-11 14:28

Well, it looks like you guys wasted your donations! It sounds like Sony got everything they wanted from geohot. His blog says he's boycotting Sony, which means that he won't be poking around in the NGP either...

# Irulz 2011-04-11 14:28

OMGOMGOMG GEOHOT GETS PWND BY SONY

Respec

# Sam Sneed 2011-04-11 14:29

Very disappointed....some quotes from h**p://geohot.com/
"Why should I trust you? I do take this whole matter very seriously. Again, it's not about me, I was on the verge of quitting this stuff last June, and I would hate to be the one who sets a reputation for hackers that all a company has to do is sue us and we back down. In fact, I want the opposite reputation set, that the more a company tries to abuse the legal system, the harder we rally back.

So much for that...............You just backed down.

# César Estévez 2011-04-11 14:42

=S ...

# mardinn 2011-04-11 14:46

Well Hotz. I am happy for you. Yeah.. the conclusion of this was not what I wanted but well.. Good for you.

# Irulz 2011-04-11 14:48

Dis iz a sad day 4 all dem bredwin who donated dare $$$ to geohot. he jus theif your money and sold you out BRAH! So who is gonna do 3.60 CFW now dat he is gone
Respec

# Gustavo Carneiro 2011-04-11 14:51

This does not mean he can't release new info, only that he can't take credit

# sam browning 2011-04-11 14:52

something smells to high heaven...

# Spencer 2011-04-11 14:59

What a let down. Here is hoping Graf succeeds where hotz failed. I think that many of us wanted to tell the corporations that we can do what we want with our products. Asking for donations then agreeing to that settlment is rediculous. I would of been happy donating 5x the amount I did and see the courts rule in favor of sony instead of you just giving up.

# Younnes Afriad 2011-04-11 15:00

Omg you think he bought an ice cream in South America with my 1 donated dollar?

# prince_dari 2011-04-11 15:02

Maybe geohot did get something from this after all (from his blog):

MX:So you settled according to Sony. Did you live up to this?

"What if SCEA tries to settle?
Lets just say, I want the settlement terms to include OtherOS on all PS3s and an apology on the PlayStation blog for ever removing it. It'd be good PR for Sony too, lord knows they could use it. I'm also willing to accept a trade, a legit path to homebrew for knowledge of how to stop new firmwares from being decrypted."

geohot:@MX The terms of the settlement agreement are "confidential" and the matter requires that they be "confidential".

BricksLamp:What happened? PM, if you need to please.
I'm BRICK, I donated $500 towards your cause.

Please tell me all's well, and we're getting back our OtherOS?

geohot:I will address the donations in a forthcoming post, and I think people will be happy.

@BricksLamp The terms of the settlement agreement are "confidential" and the matter requires that they be "confidential".

# Amran Hashim 2011-04-11 15:02

HOT Loser!!!!

# Joe Kidd 2011-04-11 15:14

It is disappointing that Hotz accepted settlement, especially after everything he's said. Still though, I don't blame him for wanting to end the case, after everything Sony has tried to pull out of their asses. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony pulled something that might have scared him. After all, big corporations will fight dirty if they 'have to'. Anyway, we might as well at least wait to see what Hotz has to say about it before throwing tomatoes at him.

As for Sony, I'm sure they'll get what's coming to them. If Hotz wasn't able to win the fight, maybe someone else will.

# Gerald Thomas 2011-04-11 15:15

cant wait to hear some more info about this

# Gin1212 2011-04-11 15:20

I completely agree... All of you that "donated" and sat back and watched as the guy that unlocked a stupid video game system went up to bat for you, should be ashamed. Yeah, he settled... But if you saw any of the legal documents you would have seen that he was fighting a losing battle.

I mean... The judge asked him to physically take back the key he had given out to other hackers... Really? And then her defense was that she wasn't very up to date with the technology and the case.

If that was the judge for my case, I would be getting out too! Ridiculous.

# James 2011-04-11 15:26

you stupid idiot! Without him you would not have Playstation JB. He never asked for people to buy his JB he released it for free, and when he needed our help he asked for a few donations. I am happy to give him money. When SCEA is suing it's never cheap. It is no farce, he still had to pay for all the lawyers he hired.

# Jason Bueme 2011-04-11 15:30

What a scumbag we donated money for him to fight Sony and he used it to go on vacation. I hope Anonymous kills him.

# Chase Montgomery 2011-04-11 15:42

Actually, the orignial PSJB group along with Mathieulh released all tools/keys necessary to JB the PS3.

Geohot didn't really add any value.

# gqgarnett 2011-04-11 15:44

thank you james for telling the asshole the
truth

# gqgarnett 2011-04-11 15:44

thank you james for telling the asshole the truth

# Your_grandma 2011-04-11 16:02

In business things can change quickly. Sony's stock could drop out if a mass number of users start hacking their ps3's. Hacking your ps3 pretty much means you will never buy another game for it again (or very few). So it is sort of stressful for sony.

# Itaku 2011-04-11 16:13

The confidential terms of the settlement agreement: http://bit.ly/eh55mC

# oladoyin 2011-04-11 16:17

I'm confuse about this statement so does that mean Geohot give up about his right? or Sony win over the case?

# cp0020 2011-04-11 16:19

he probably bought 5 with that $1 lol

# Your_grandma 2011-04-11 16:38

That's because the hackers were more secretive with it. Instead we got a bunch of el che's wanting to be famous hacking the ps3.

# mussmauler 2011-04-11 16:43

Very dissapointed in this news to be honest on a few accounts.

Firstly: Geohot stirred up a fervent fever of hate against Sony and their bully boy tactics. He told us that he would do this and that, would never bend over to the man and would fight for what is legally ours ie OtherO, to me it look like Mr Hotz has taken it right up the backside to further his own success maybe by pocketing a nice little earner from Sony in the process.

Secondly: For people that donated to the cause especially people like Brick who donated what is quite a considerable amount of money in this financial climate, I am sure they are feeling quite disgruntled by this news as they believed they had found someone with a bit of backbone to make a stand against the big corporations and fight our corner.

In all its a complete farce, people have been backing Mr Hotz to the hilt, when he has been doing shady lawyer deals behind our backs and yes I mean our backs as WE are the ones that help fund his supposed fight.

Rant over.... not yet

just reading through his plea for money again and what a crock of shit he has spun us.
Why should I care about your personal legal troubles?
You shouldn't. For example, if I was taken to court for sex crimes in Sweden, I would never ask for donations. But this case isn't about me. Clearly I am not being sued because of something I have that Sony wants, I am being sued in order to send a message that Sony is not to be messed with. But if I(and all codefendants likewise) actually win this, we have the power to send a much stronger message back. That consumers have rights, and we aren't afraid to stand up for them.

Why should I trust you? I just saw you trying to rap battle Sony
My attempts at humor aside, I do take this whole matter very seriously. Again, it's not about me, I was on the verge of quitting this stuff last June, and I would hate to be the one who sets a reputation for hackers that all a company has to do is sue us and we back down. In fact, I want the opposite reputation set, that the more a company tries to abuse the legal system, the harder we rally back. I will be the first person in line on the launch date of the Xperia Play, and itching to get my hands on the Next GEOHOT Project.

Sell out...sell out

rant over now

# Scotty Dog 2011-04-11 16:44

Yeah get it right and think before you type fool. The JB was based on a reversed engineered sony factory jig.

# see1ask1 2011-04-11 17:09

and again, you still got more then what you paid for out of it all. Now hit my music.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

# Brick87 2011-04-11 17:17

You know, amongst all this, there are MANY hidden details in the paperwork... if you check his site, read through the blog a bit...

Greg, tell me if you see what I see...
Have you figured out why this isn't over, and why I'm not upset at all? I did donate $500.00, after all... and I bought my PS3 with about 30% reasons leaning toward OtherOS (though it didn't have the power I had hoped it would)... don't I have more "right" to complain than most here?
Why don't I? Why aren't I disappointed?

(Think outside the box...)

# Ernesto Rodriguez 2011-04-11 17:37

SCEA wanted to put up a white flag to Geohot to show Anonymous that their "not worthy" begging to stop the attacks on the PSN servers. Especially on Anonymous special announcement that will be broadcast on the 16th of April, 2011.

# chris 2011-04-11 17:41

maybe its time for a new cfw now

# Spencer 2011-04-11 17:43

Thats not the terms of the agreement, thats the stipulation which isnt confidential.

# Amanda_GR 2011-04-11 17:48

This settlement will outrage Anonymous. Expect an attack Sony and watch your PS Store!

# sinB 2011-04-11 17:51

Complete Bullshit. I hate when people talk about stock and how Sony would lose money. They wouldn't lose money, they just wouldn't make the kinda PROFIT they would like, but they'll still make profit. Apple isn't crying are they, and I'm sure you pirate music like the MAJORITY of people out there that own a mp3 player. We as a people pirate movies, software, and music...but games are OFF LIMITS?! Everyone and i mean EVERYONE pirates something in some form of way. If you don't that means you don't own a computer or have the internet. That's just the way it is. It you wanna spend your hard earned $60 to protect Sony's precious stock...then be my guest. Me myself, I could give two shits.

# yeaaaah 2011-04-11 17:56

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT................

# Jack79538 2011-04-11 18:06

For those people who do not like geohot's actions ............ I suggest you write ur complaint down on a piece of paper ............ crumble it up and stick it up between ur 2 cheeks because NO1 CARES

# Joe Kidd 2011-04-11 18:15

Why do people associate hacking with pirating? I have CFW on my PS3, but that doesn't mean I don't buy my games. I'm all for helping the economy circulate and everything, but why should hacking be anything bad? Especially for those of us who just like having nifty or useful apps, or Linux, on our systems. As for game managers like multiMAN, Gaia, etc, yes, that does have means of generating piracy, but Sony is obviously attacking the wrong people for it. Instead of attacking the people behind the software, why not attack those that are distributing their PS3 isos over the web? They're the real threat, NOT the hackers.

# Your_grandma 2011-04-11 18:26

"But everyone is doing it though!" Argument is retarded.

"If you don't that means you don't own a computer or have the internet." What are you even talking about. Not everyone pirates. Quit kidding yourself, piracy is wrong no matter what asshole is doing it. Your not fighting some revolutionary cause by pirating. Your just a lowly thief that will eventually rob jobs of average working people not the CEO's. The "i don't give a shit" attitude is one of a true thief.

# Your_grandma 2011-04-11 18:32

Just look at this site. The massive majority of people looking to hack their ps3 is for pirating. Once you can get something for free you never go back. The extra stuff for hacking is great and all but there isn't anything here i have seen that hasn't been done on console already.

I would like to see a n64 and ps1 emu in hd but everyone just cares about getting their "backup" loaders working.

# Tyler Ruff 2011-04-11 19:04

Time to find another thing to make homebrews for...Maybe I could try iPhone...

# Bernardo Garcia 2011-04-11 19:35

im joining the SONY boycott..... its about time to try XBOX 360.. bye bye sony products!

# Ivan Navarro 2011-04-11 19:55

Fucking puto!
at least theres many who JB the ipod who uses Hotzs tools

# Joshua Hoffer 2011-04-11 19:56

Because you don't want to be an asshole? IDK

# jtc242 2011-04-11 19:58

I donated and I immediately was thinking the same thing. Here is a quote from his site...

"Why should I care about your personal legal troubles?
You shouldn't. For example, if I was taken to court for sex crimes in Sweden, I would never ask for donations. But this case isn't about me. Clearly I am not being sued because of something I have that Sony wants, I am being sued in order to send a message that Sony is not to be messed with. But if I(and all codefendants likewise) actually win this, we have the power to send a much stronger message back. That consumers have rights, and we aren't afraid to stand up for them."

By settling out of court I think he is sending a very strong message that might makes right. I will reserve my judgment until I hear more, but I am not optimistic.

# Allen Brown 2011-04-11 19:58

If you had expected geohot to make a cfw 3.60, you might be retarded.

# jtc242 2011-04-11 20:01

I strongly agree. I hardly have any electronic device that isn't hacked and I don't pirate a thing. It allows me to use my hardware in any way I choose.

Pirating is outright theft.

# Inugami 2011-04-11 20:15

You donate money? Lol on you.

# Inugami 2011-04-11 20:22

Well geohot is free, people here hate him because he go to south america with the donated money (who got the receipt that says he took money out of it to go to south america?)

He in fact was the first who jailbreak the PS3, remember the infamous "Hello PS3, Im GeoHot"? Tes Math release some tools but the jig got discovered/leaked long time ago and NOBODY could do crap with it. Also some people here don't understand what a donation means, if you donate $1 for Hotz then you cant nag of what he do with that $1 because was a donation.

If you got your PS3 hacked because of this then be happy and keep playing (waiting for CFW 3.60) and if you upgrade all the way to 3.60 and bitch about it then is your fault, not any devs fault because nobody point a gun at you and force you update your PS3.

# brad sarkiewicz 2011-04-11 20:36

you know..this makes me wonder what will happen to graf :/ because in my mind at least i saw geohot winning this thing and then sony would have no choice but to back off of graf..but now....

# Mark Kovalenko 2011-04-11 20:41

WTF, did you ever pay attention in english class, kid?

# Banmonster 2011-04-11 20:45

geohot's a fag. But I'm glad it's over and there is no new law stating CFW is illegal. I hope Dev's will ballz upo and drop us some new shit. As for that last vibrator release yeah ya'll must be snortin bathsalts. Let's see good homebrew. My ol; lady is probably aslready F@#$n her co weorkers while I play video games anyhow what good does a vibrator do for me? Produce a chip I can inject into womens lower neck and controll with the ps3 then I"ll be happy
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# Acyr Rio 2011-04-11 21:04

Lol, hey Anonymous another mission to you!

# Jake Powell 2011-04-11 21:26

What about all the donations we sent to GeoHot?

# spy4561 2011-04-11 21:28

I have both Lol but I only bought a PS3 for a Jailbreak...

# jarrah trebilcock 2011-04-11 21:40

Ahoy me hearties, Aye reckon ye olde sony are all scurvy dogs and bilge rats and should all be made to walk the plank. And as for wee Geeboy 21 lashing with the cat of ninetails should suffice.

# Playstation3D 2011-04-11 22:01

they had to settle cause i registered blickmanic on the debug network they didn't have a case.. Geohot want to play battleships?

# Under_The_Radar13 2011-04-11 22:11

I'm to much a cheap ass to donate $1 lol

# mer2329 2011-04-11 22:39

im actually going to post this as a new comment

# mer2329 2011-04-11 22:44

if i had a mask i would go wearing a t-shirt with a xbox 360 system screen printed in the front and "former PS fanboy" printed on the back, walk right inside the store, wander aimlessly for hours on end, and when i get tired sit on the floor and take out my DS lite and play on it right then and there, when im ready to go again i would start wandering again.

if they threaten to kick me out because i am not a customer i would purchase the cheapest thing in the store (a magizine or something) destroy it and keep the reciept and part of the item as proof that i am a paying customer

# Joe 2011-04-11 23:29

no your true but not for 3.55 with out not every could jailbrake like today how most off al ps3 user have ps3 jailbroken with 3.55

# top dog 2011-04-11 23:56

know i think about it i sony new they were going to lose and thats why they offered a settlement.so they could legaly keep geohot from messing with the ps3 ever again.

# felixchess5 2011-04-12 00:02

I remember when Geohot came out with his rap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
What happened with the bull, did some one grabbed it by its ballz? But hey, I don't blame him for trying to save his sorry az, I just find fun the fact that he spoke so many blah blah blah, and people actually believed him and had some hope, but when things got hard, he backed off and turn around...

# masbizkit99 2011-04-12 00:56

who cares about CFW 3.60 im content to never go online for psn. Anyone thats dumb enough to use psn with any hacked firmware deserves a ban etc. . . Sony has always screwed consumers with firmware updates since 3.21 and before so why bother.

# alexeon 2011-04-12 01:00

Sony vs Anonymous

Good luck, Sony. LOL

# felixchess5 2011-04-12 01:15

I pay double against Sony, who's with me?

# Scotty Dog 2011-04-12 01:51

the donation was to fight for our right of ownership of our ps3. Asking for donation's and not doing what tou said you would is fraudulant even claiming fund under false pretences as he didnt do the full haul.

# Omega_Weapon 2011-04-12 02:06

i pity those who donated to hotz, now hes permanently useless lol

# ppFLEX 2011-04-12 02:11

Dear Geohot

For years I have followed you, all the way back to some of the original iDevice jailbreaks. And when I heard that you made a jailbreak for the ps3 I was more then excited, and at the first chance I had I installed it. I have been more then happy with your work for all these years. And even in those days when you fought Apple in the court, I was always checking the updates and always rooting for you. To this day, when you were in court battles with Sony, I was always checking here and your blog for updates just waiting for that headline to read, "Geohot wins court battle against Sony" to come across the top news. But now, that day will never come. I hate how much you assured us that you had everything under control, only to bail at the first chance you saw. Since the first day I saw you on the news explaining your iPhone unlock, I wanted to be just like you. I thought of you like a role model, A person that's willing to help others by setting new laws by fighting big corporations just like you previously did with Apple.. Actions speak louder then words, but with this entire ordeal, all you gave us was words. In results, I'm just down right disappointed.

But in the end, I still have hope in you Geohot. Your brilliant, and even though you made mistakes, you still have my respect.

# Jason Cale Douglous 2011-04-12 02:33

I'm saddened, they must have blackmailed him, or at least secretly offered him money to settle. I mean really, why else would he have given up on this battle?

# Joel 2011-04-12 03:09

you do know this has been going on for awhile saying he took the 1st out is wrong it was a battle he can not win but im sure there is more to the settlement then just him not being able to mod sony products cause thats what a settlement is both partys get something out of this

# Joel 2011-04-12 03:11

ive had a ps3 for a long time now and only now after losing my net and being on a leptop with a crappy sprint wifi card did i start thinking about jail breaking my ps3 just so i could have something to do there will always be more people that will pay for the games then pirate them

# Joel 2011-04-12 03:14

not true ive been wanting to jailbreak my ps3 for emus and i would much rather buy a game i can play online rather then play a single player imma get tired of after the 1st time through really sony could have come out on top making alot of money if they would have worked with geohotz in proventing pirating and puting out homebrews and apps and so on and so on

# Joel 2011-04-12 03:21

me its not about wanting something for free im a gamer and i wanna play games while pirating wasint my goal for jailbreaking i would pirate some single player games not as some fuck the man fuck sony type thing but because imma broke brother fucker i got a wife and kid and im going to school im inbetween jobs right now and i cant pay for games but i wanna play them cause fucking shit games are what keep me from going crazy and killing every one in my town except for my wife and kid in these hard times where america and other countrys are shoveling millions and billions of dollars to 3rd world or outher countrys going threw some shit we dont have the money to pay for our entertainment which entertainment is something that is important in peoples life

# Joel 2011-04-12 03:27

yeah for the most part when they 1st came out with the ps3 they let you put your own os on it and do what ever you wanted for the most part even had a tut on the sony site on how to put a bigger hard drive in your ps3 but now it just seems like they are wanting to be like microsoft and provent people from getting the most out of the system

# Joel 2011-04-12 03:30

actualy it was more of there was a bigger risk hacking the xbox 360 not sure about the wii dont have one and dont care about them but i mean im new to the ps3 jailbreaking and everything but from what i can see all you need is a usb stick and the right firmware while with the 360 you got to open it up put in a mod chip and so on and so on and aything you do microsoft will be able to tell while with the ps3 you can fuck it up and im sure if you get some one stupid on the phone you could send it in and get a new one or something dont know im probably just talking out of my ass

# Joel 2011-04-12 03:34

no matter what sony and other companys do hackers will always get threw their crap and hack it i just hope some one does it soon cause im board and wanna do something with my ps3

# Your_grandma 2011-04-12 04:10

*sigh* everyone has a excuse.... everyone.

# Jessie James 2011-04-12 05:15

lol i kinda agree with some of you ppl on here. I think he did take all your fools money and prob some from sony. Im glad i didnt donate. If he did tho make it so sony well bring back other OS then I'm happy. But only time well tell~

# scione 2011-04-12 06:58

That was quick, Sony settled right after the Anonymous attack.

# Robert Brown 2011-04-12 08:27

Im glad to see alot of folk on here are hacking but not pirating its how it should be...and hopefully this is the last we will here of anonymous and other crap thats going....and please no more fck sony bring it down ect ect if thats the case sell ur ps3 and buy something else

# Brett Razorline Dimko 2011-04-12 08:43

YOU are an idiot ... people like you are the ones DEMANDING a 3.60 CFW ... do you think doing something so childish would make a difference ? those minimum wage store workers do not GIVE A F*CK what you do they will simply remove you ... and when you show the " PROOF OF PURCHASE" and cause a scene the POLICE will remove you keep in mind all stores are PRIVATE PROPERTY ... do research then speak ... you can be removed at any time for ANY reason ....

# Jonny A$$ 2011-04-12 09:46

As we don't have any details of the settlement yet, we can't be sure that these weren't included... But yeah, not very likely...

Although1! $ony didn't drop the case, they arranged a settlement, which normally means that they both get a little something something. Maybe OtherOS returned? A development platform (although limited) for indie developers? Purely speculation...

Watch Groklaw or wikileaks over the coming week and I'm sure they'll have all the details.

# Jonny A$$ 2011-04-12 09:59

Words are cheap, actions (and lawsuits) are not... However, that said. Do you want to be sued by a gigantic multi-national?

No..? Didn't think so. People are too quick to judge. If you don't know him personally, you don't know what kind of pressure a trial like this puts you under. He had an excellent legal team, and I'm 99% sure that; $ony approached his legal team, with a settlement proposal, George's lawyers came to him and said, "honestly, it's our professional opinion that, this is going to continue for as long as this hypothetical piece of string. Even then it will end in a settlement a few years down the line". Which I think is entirely true.

No one chooses to be a Martyr, usually they are faced wit no alternative option than to die one. I don't blame him at all, this is probably the best outcome, realistically, that could of happened.

If you're bummed about feeling cheated by hotz, donate to graf. 1,000,000 euro's is a lot of 0's... AND HE IS STILL HACKING AWAY, RELEASING, AND WORKING FOR US!!

# Jonny A$$ 2011-04-12 10:12

A few things sir...

They can indeed remove you at any time for any reason. HOWEVER, you can sit outside doing the same thing.

He was also refering to the upcoming anonymous protests... Now, I know someone who actually works in a $ony store in London (oh, btw, they get a fair bit more than minimum wage, they're salespeople, not labourers...), and they are dreading the 16th. Nobody wants to work that shift, holidays are not permitted (unless booked largely in advance) and doctors notes are required if they are sick.

Things like that; fear, the calm before the storm, the unknown about what exactly is going to happen is the only way you can get to company's like $ony.

Dealing with hackers online is one thing, dishing out bans to a bunch of faceless numbers... But when there are a hundred people sitting, chanting, waving signs, all wearing masks outside your place of work, well, that's a little more difficult to deal with... And the police can't do ANYTHING about that so long as it remains peaceful and within protest laws. PEACEFUL PROTEST IS 100% LEGAL ON PUBLIC PROPERTY!!

Do some research, then speak.

# Jonny A$$ 2011-04-12 10:17

xbox == PS3

Except for a few exlusive titles, I can't tell the difference between the two.

I prefer the XBOX controller, and the graphics look the same to me... Plus the kinect is just fricking awesome... Especially if you're a fat fuck like me that isn't fond of the gym.

# Jonny A$$ 2011-04-12 10:19

Aye, you sit in a boardroom with 30 prolific investors and tell them where all their money's gone, lol.

# Jonny A$$ 2011-04-12 10:22

Hacking leads to custom firmware,
Custom firmware leads to backup managers,
Backup managers leads to piracy,
Piracy leads to... the dark side!

# Jonny A$$ 2011-04-12 10:26

Well... securing future firmwares... But what's done is done.

You can't explain to the people who hold vast chunks of your company's shares (which in itself is a palendrome), that, this guy we were sueing is now on our payroll. Just can't happen.

# Jonny A$$ 2011-04-12 10:28

"Apple isn't crying are they, and I'm sure you pirate music"

Apple don't own music. They're not even a record label. They're a mediator that takes a tiny % of millions of sales. A portal, nothing more. It's people like EMI who lose out hard... Oh, and $ony ofc.

# SethM 2011-04-12 10:33

Lol Geo's been looking for a settlement this whole time he knows he couldn't win.

# SethM 2011-04-12 10:35

Cause he can't win!!!! He did something blatantly against the PS3s user agreement and broke international copyright law then flaunted it in Sony's face.

# Luis Daniel Blandon 2011-04-12 11:13

-applause- You did it!

# Luis Daniel Blandon 2011-04-12 11:15

Same here. The fact that most multiplatforms are made almost identically for both platforms (save for better textures in some games on PS3) they're practically identical, and personally, I prefer achievements and the 360 controller. That said I love my PS3 :-D

# Spencer 2011-04-12 11:29

They agreed to the settlement on the 31st... When did anon attack... the 4th?

# Spencer 2011-04-12 11:34

Yeah its sorta like a charity fund asking for donations to help sick kids, then giving up and saying well I changed my mind I couldnt help them all so meh. Im pretty sure its illegal.

# Rue Jackson 2011-04-12 11:59

I can bet 90% people hack their console is for pirating games and software.
If you are not being honest, that is fine. no one is going to track you down. People just want to find reason to prove why they do and why it is right.

Pirating is never be right. If you are developer, programmer, you will understand that. If you are not, I hope you children will be that you will feel it at least.

Most people here are young, teenage to may be up to 30. You dont have money, it is ok. Please Dont try to find the reason to protect your pirating. Those have family, how can you have too much time for gaming. Gaming is not you priortized stuff in your life. I myself barely have enough time for gaming. If you have too much time for gaming, go to find better job and pay for the game. Or go to educate yourself better to find better job at least for your family sake. Those said games are too expensive, go to buy older second hand game. You don't need to play new game as soon as it come out. unless you are kid and compare your classmate and neighbors' kid. Although, Sony should charge game less than $50 for new one. same as Xbox. but Wii and 3DS game are more like rip off there.

Those whom donated to Hotz, those have good will or support what he was doing. But if you didn't donate, dont cry like baby. Even if you do, dont complain. Why dont you go to face Sony of any law sue? That is time and $ consuming. And very stressful situation for Hotz. The cost may be up to couple millions. the donation may not be enough for partion of it.

finally, whatever it is. If you want to reply or attack my words, I don't care. I meant. That is pointlessss. look into your heart to find what is wrong and right. I am tired of looking all of this and this is my first post.

# yeaaaah 2011-04-12 12:24

who gives a fuck!!

# SethM 2011-04-12 13:15

No one ever said you didn't own your PS3 or couldn't do whatever they wanted with it. There is an underlying problem with it that everyone seems to ignore. This is Sony vs Geo not Sony vs Everyone who owns a PS3. None of you are doing anything wrong by putting CFW on it the problem was Geo broke international copyright law. If he figured out how to do CFW without bypassing Sony's security they couldn't of said anything.

# SethM 2011-04-12 13:21

They settled before Anon even attacked read up on the news.

# Thomas 2011-04-12 13:32

PIRATING IS NEVER BE RIGHT. (Also wow, I could barely read through that. That was a giant string of illiterate garbage out of the mind of a deranged ten year old.)

# jtc242 2011-04-12 15:55

I think you are missing my point. He said this wasn't about him and that he was planning on fighting the message Sony was trying to send. I also don't blame him for taking the deal. That being said, I think it would be nice if he explained his reasoning for taking the deal. If he isn't allowed to speak about it, I am sure he could tell us that. I think he owes it to anyone who reached into their pocket.

# bertr2013 2011-04-12 17:55

Thank you to the dev's for this.It's nice to play online again.As for the Geohot outcome...I have to admit that I'm feeling let down by the whole thing.I thought he was going to fight for all of our rights.I also thought that he wouldn't take a settlement without the return of the 'OtherOs' feature and apology from Sony.I think alot of people donated on those premises which were fed by George himself...but according to what I've been reading online...he is apparently helping Sony in their fight against piracy...is that why I've read of hackers saying George took a job at Sony to make the PS3 and future consoles unhackable?I don't want to jump the gun...but all this doesn't look good for George and I have to wonder..."what was it all for?"

But to the Dev's whose honor is unquestionable...Thanks for everything!!I have a PS3 that truly 'Does everything',as the box it came in says...and I love it!

And to Sony and anyone who makes deals with them...Was it worth it?

# James Soileau 2011-04-12 19:03

He did exactly what he said.... He fought against them and stood up. He never said he was out for victory. He did what MANY would not, Stand in the face of a mighty corporation with his chin held high to be a symbol of what the hacking community hold dear. I have not once seen him ever say he was going to be a savior. He, in my eyes and I am sure many others, has gone above and beyond the call. He did something many of us wish we could do, something many of us fear to do, something many of us strive to do, and that was standing up for his right of love of knowledge!

# James Soileau 2011-04-12 19:06

Walk a mile in his shoes.....I am sure many will be disappointed seeing people turn against him after he spat in the face of a corp, endured much legal fees and stress then to have people turn their back on him because of a settlement? Absurd....

# James Soileau 2011-04-12 19:10

The same is going on here with friends I know that work at a sony style store in the americas. They overall will be ready to call authorities and see it more of an annoyance and bringing attention to their stores in a plus side.

# Aiochu Liaous 2011-04-13 02:10

I'll agree with the pirating not being right part since I do program (though generally not for money). But saying that 90% hack their consoles to pirate games? What about the 99% that don't?

I personally like "hacking" stuff just for fun or to make improvements or even just to have something to practice with.

# Aiochu Liaous 2011-04-13 02:14

Yes, I do like my backup loaders. Why? It means I don't have to run around my room switching disks every other day. With a backup loader, just backup the game once, put it back in the box, put it in storage and never see another scratch on your disks until it is time to change systems.

# Sam Summins 2011-04-13 09:19

Well, I was expecting, at the end of this, for OtherOS and all Jailbreaking. But no, not that I blame geohot, all the rumors and expenses.

# Jon Jones 2011-04-13 11:21

Sony 1 people who donated to Hotz Zero! haha

# jtc242 2011-04-13 11:37

actually you are wrong here is what he said

"What if SCEA tries to settle?
Lets just say, I want the settlement terms to include OtherOS on all PS3s and an apology on the PlayStation blog for ever removing it. It'd be good PR for Sony too, lord knows they could use it. I'm also willing to accept a trade, a legit path to homebrew for knowledge of how to stop new firmwares from being decrypted."

# James Soileau 2011-04-13 19:09

That is what he personally wanted or would of liked to see, did not say he was GOING to make it happen. I don't see where you proved me wrong in the least.

# Nathan Gallegos 2011-04-14 01:42

wheres the refund button? :/

# jacques 2011-04-18 19:10

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1793...

# mer2329 2011-04-28 22:54

i never stated (not demanded that) i want a new custom firmware
i own all the games on my HDD and only use this because it makes transport easier as i take my ps3 with me when i visit a friend.
i like supporting the developers and store workers in fact i still have a Physical Final Fantasy IX game discs (in mint condition) and i also purchased a digital copy the day it came out

yes i know you can be removed from private property when ever they want. i never said it wasnt. i never said i would cause a scene

that sounds like a flame to me if your looking to get me riled up to didnt pick a good target, just wanted to let you know that

# Matthew rayburn 2011-07-09 02:17

bitches be triflin

# Matthew rayburn 2011-07-09 02:26

no doubt.the tyranny and ignorance of these globalist pigs is astonishing.people should think about fighting governments and scum sucking corperations over more important things then hacking kids toys.and corperations

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