Sony Vs. Australian PS JailBreak Resellers: Sony Wins


Submitted by greg; September 02, 2010


Hey OzModChips: Where's my refund at? Whether or not you still care it would seem Sony has won their case against PS JailBreak resellers (read: OzModChips, ModSupplier, and Quantronics) in Australia. All three sites have removed PS JailBreak from their online catalogue. Funny enough, Quantronics has added Teensy++ boards to theirs at a price of $79. PSX-Scene has the inside scoop breaking down the official court docs for ya:
  • Basically they have NAMED the original makers of PSJailbreak, and their BANK ACCOUNT, and all units that have been ordered must be delivered to the lawyers.
  • There is going to be also damages set for the resellers to pay to Sony for all the trouble, etc.
  • They have until Sept. 9th to get the units pay for into the hands of the lawyers.
  • Looks like it will be outright forever ban, but no mention of that.
Ouch. And really, in the end, does Sony win? We'll see come the next firmware update.



Tags: Injunction, ModSupplier, OzModChips, PS JailBreak, Quantronics, Sony, Teensy++




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# Darkrocker 2010-09-02 23:57
Really? I mean, I thought Sony didn't have a chance on this one. How the hell does the legal system work in Australia? How can they ban a product, which does nothing illegal, just because Sony said so? And whats worse Sony gets to collect money for "damages" from the distributors? Give me a f#$%ing break. There's something very fishy going on here.

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# tftx22 2010-09-03 00:03
yeah, what's worse is stupid sh*t like this happening in America.

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# dave 2010-09-03 00:19
Yea but still, its just a matter of time until its ported to the psp or ipod touch. I mean, once the jailbreak tool was released, and reverse engineered, its a wrap. Sony doesnt win in the long run at all. In fact very opposite. And since the teensy boards have increased tramendisly in price, thats just one more reason for this to be ported to the psp. And when it is, sony is gonna feel like shit because the psp, baby brother of ps3, will actually hack the ps3. Im just waiting until this is released. But i want other people to be the ghinney pigs to see what sony does when it comes to a jailbroken ps3 and online use.

This should be good.

Great, actually.

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# JOEY-DUZ-IT 2010-09-03 00:21
WTF! haha. i dont care, we got teensy, and a million other tested and untested boards, aswell as much cheaper clones. what they gonna do, ban usb development boards? haha, yer right, but i bet they'll try.

LJ, Proud ps3 owner/proud sony hater :)

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# dadudeondacouch 2010-09-03 00:33
Apparently the dongle DOES have sony code in it.

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# James 2010-09-03 00:45
They've already cracked the PS3 so it makes no difference anyway ha ha ha ha. Only a matter of time before something is released to the public.

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# dgreat 2010-09-03 00:52
I have high hopes for our smart hackers/coders out there. Im sure you guys can work your way around a new patch... if one does come out. More power to you guys.

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# ryan 2010-09-03 00:55
That sucks. It is open to the public now though, hopefully it will hit the PSP. I'm waiting for that, also curious to see what the next f.w. update does. Also, to all the people who put work into this hack..THANK YOU. All the people working on fixing it/updating it..THANK YOU. Keep up the good work fellas!

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# elk 2010-09-03 00:55
I feel somewhat bad for the creators of PSJailbreak seeing as they took out second mortgages to finance this venture, but I also think they were unjust for trying to charge such a huge amount. They should have open sourced it from the beginning and accepted donations.

Hopefully this jailbreaking leads to restoration of OtherOS and emulators. If sony would just allow us to use homebrew with some restrictions, this might never have happened.

*sigh* Sony >.>

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# muny21 2010-09-03 01:08
i do not feel bad for any of these guys for losing money. they were trying to overcharge people ridiculously. they, like elk said, released it for free as most hacks are. they knew people were waiting for this for four years so they got greedy and thought they would make a killing of this. greed is on of the seven deadly sins and they are paying for it now. i love poetic justice.

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# muny21 2010-09-03 01:09
typo:

meant to say they should have released it for free.

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# poopmonster 2010-09-03 01:10
Oh my fucking God!!! Guess what people did I not just call that?! look at my other comment here:

http://www.ps3-hacks.com/2010/...

Ah well sucks for those in Australia. Ooh but wait, guess what guys? It's gonna happen everywhere. Sony will win each case. It's pretty sad how i had to be the one to tell you guys the truth. Ah it feels so good to be right. Hey everyone who was wrong trying to defend this whole idea. How does it feel to be wrong? I can tell you guys that it feels great being right.

Bow down and lick my balls people. That's exactly what you'll be doing to Sony. You will all be man handling them balls won't you?

"Gargle gargle gargle"

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# Ben 2010-09-03 01:11
How is it not greedy to want everything for free, yes the price was high, but the owned the market, they could have charged twice that and people would have still bought it.

Love all the whining about the price when half of you probably have preorders.

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# Ben 2010-09-03 01:12
Also.... fuck Sony, no chance in hell getting development boards banned. The damage is already done.

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# Ben 2010-09-03 01:20
via ozmodchips twitter

sorry for the lack of updates, its been a long day. Bassically the injunction still stands but its not 100% over yet. Not allowed to say more

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# zhao 2010-09-03 01:25
i'll be seeing more news of this one, but still w8ing for something good might happen

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# muny21 2010-09-03 01:29
i love how people say, "fuck sony". but without them none of us would have a ps3. which is the best video game machine ever built. so i love sony for that. also how can you hate them for trying to protect their product which they sold for a lose to all of us. do not get me wrong, i want the psgroove as well as everyone else. but i think sony is the best company out there for electronics and games. hope they stay around forever.

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# muny21 2010-09-03 01:33
and to ben.
you do not think they are greedy. look at their prices for the teensy boards the AT90USBKEY boards. $79 for a $18 product and $109.95 for a $35 product!! they jacked the prices up more then 300 percent! fucking greedy bastards. hope they go bankrupt it would serve them right.

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# evilak 2010-09-03 01:33
@poopmaster
You know my dick is already in yours poopmaster and in Sony's too, considering I created my own damn board =))

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# poopmonster 2010-09-03 01:38
@evilak you're lying pretending you created your own board just to try and sound cool in front of a lot people who are reading these comments. You know damn well Sony's balls are shoved down your throat right now as I type this. Please do us all a favor and don't talk. It's one thing to try and look or be cool in public but when you're trying to look or be cool on the internet is when it's just straight up sad.

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# taro 2010-09-03 01:41
nice sony

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# Asgiov 2010-09-03 01:44
It's only one country...
PSJailbreak team are still going to make a killing...

After the initial batch, they'll probably just resell the sticks for $40-$50, but them in bulk so they don't have to pay as much per stick, and make a decent $20~ profit per sale.

I wouldn't cry for them too much....

And as for the Aussies... they are free to make their own sticks with PSGroove now... everything is fine...
Sony pretty much just wasted a lot of money and time on this.

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# stfu 2010-09-03 01:58
why don't you stfu.. it was a 50/50 chance and you were going to be right and now you're gloatin about it? wow obviously you were thrown as a baby. take a quarter and call someone who gives a shit dummy.. and please don't reply to this because this is my first and last post on this thread.. if I wanted a come back, I'd scrape it off your teeth you ferry f#$k..

needless to say, if they would have given it out for free, I dont think sony wouldnt have been able to do shit. I think the fact they were selling a feature for the ps3 that wasnt authorized by sony got them in shit.. but who knows?? apparently fudge packin shit pushin poopmonster knows.. because hes a bona fide "straight up" douche. Do everyone a favor and go gargle some more...

And to those working on the open source code(especially for the PSP) keep up the fantastic work. Im checking this site daily finding out what the details are.

ps - poopmonster stfu

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# Th3_MoL3 2010-09-03 02:10
ROFL you tell him

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# poopmonster 2010-09-03 02:18
@stfu just don't talk cause you and your boyfriends aren't going to get a special device. Oh and I love how you say "take a quarter and call someone who gives a shit dummy" because it's great how you think you don't care yet you still replied. pretty stupid move. a couple people showed that they didn't care but "YOU" obviously do care cause like i said before if know one cares know one would reply to me.

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# evilak 2010-09-03 03:37
I created my own board with at90usb162 and ps groove code, go fuck yourself and I am fucking sony personally now :D

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# evilak 2010-09-03 03:39
I created my own board with at90usb162 and ps groove code, go fuck yourself and I am fucking Sony personally now you moron

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# Antwan666 2010-09-03 04:00
In Australia in court if you've got the money you've got the win(probably the case in most countries) and sony definitely has the money. Also the fact that our game and media laws are from the 80's does not help, for god sake putting paid for music from your computer on you ipod is by law illegal. But like the psp scene an easy alternative will come out(like using your psp)and I will do what we all did with the psp and downgrade our own then everybody else that we know

AND POOPMONSTER stop causing fights and typing your gay erotic stuff there are other websites for that

P.S F#ck You Sony

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# UKandy360 2010-09-03 04:19
Sony should probably file a lawsuit against itself once the psp port of psgroove surfaces.

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# CodeGEN 2010-09-03 04:30
Fcuk you sony , fcuk your ps3 , you are coming to the end , it's happening.. It is INEVITABLE

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# gyjunior 2010-09-03 04:58
Australia is not only a country, its a continent!
And Sony is getting back their money from the defendant!

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# gyjunior 2010-09-03 05:00
nice, witty comment! Love it!

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# Medavik 2010-09-03 05:01
I may sound stupid but i think $ony will do something
about the Teensy++ boards

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# moot 2010-09-03 05:08
yes! hope sony fucking murders every pirate ther is, let them hire the "iceman" Richard Kuklinski and have him murder you and your family.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...

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# gyjunior 2010-09-03 05:09
Aight... now let's bring a rest to this discussion:
1. Sony is not equal to sony! We are greatful for the department creating such a great device, and also greatful for the challenging security measures!
But I also understand the people saying "fuck Sony" cause they mean the corporate system who are behaving like little kids when loosing a game! Which brings us to number...
2. Australian laws are messed up. The judges are for sale, and in the end sony gets back the same money from the defendant what it payed for the judge in the first place!
I gotta say: Bitch move, Sony!
3. Sony lost the battle, and they know it... but every day they postpone a release makes them a little more richer. Or in their oppinion: They loose less money due to piracy.
4. Thanx to every1 contributing! It's nice 2 see people working together not for capitalistic aims, but against them! Great work people, keep it up!

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# Zwan 2010-09-03 05:30
It is illegal to make mp3s from a CD you bought in australia, its illegal to have backups. Other devices such as chips in ths ps2 were legal because they opened up other features.

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# Zwan 2010-09-03 05:30
It is illegal to make mp3s from a CD you bought in australia, its illegal to have backups. Other devices such as chips in the ps2 were legal because they opened up other features.

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# YungVigilante 2010-09-03 05:32
Wow, looks lyke sony won. . .or did they?Lol xD

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# Schadrach 2010-09-03 05:44
Err, this opens up other features as well. It allows the generic execution of unsigned code. You are literally saying that it's a different case from PS2 mod chips because the developers only have Backup Manager for download on their site at present and there's no other homebrew out there yet because effectively noone has the chips yet, and you need the chips to be able to develop homebrew.

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# jinkssick 2010-09-03 05:50
Like they say, Sony may have won the battle but theyll never win the War.

Its funny how people do not understand that game developing and Sony are near enough unrelated. Game developing get paid for working as a sub-division of Playstation. They are the ones that suffer, not Sony.

The increased sales of PS3 has these greasy basterds doing the *ca-ching*

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# Jessie James 2010-09-03 06:35
yep i think its the facted that they charged so much money for the unit and sony wasnt getting shit for it. Its prob what made them mad lol. I think they got what was comeing to them. Thats why you make things free and take donations like ppl say.

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# blueman 2010-09-03 06:37
Why do I hate Sony?

1) They removed memory card reader from EU consoles
2) The removed the emotion chip and replaced with software PS2 backward compatibility.
3) They removed PS2 backward compatibility
4) These 2 removals saved Sony $60, yet the EU consoles were $60 more expensive in the EU, making Sony $120 profit on each EU console compared to US ones.
5) They removed OtherOS
6) They are retards for chasing this court case, it's out you;re screwed get over it.
7) Sony refused to admit the drive was flawed charging many $150 to fix.
8) Sony refuse to admit hard ware flaws which lead to ylod.

Well three you go plenty of reasons to not like Sony when it comes to the PS3

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# kk6 2010-09-03 06:42
You are a fuckin' tool.

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# blueman 2010-09-03 06:51
"Beware of Imitators and Chinese Knockoffs"

OK, hang on China Sun Trading Limited, isnt that chinese? ARe you yourself knockoffs?!

Well we knew it would be a chinese company distributing these anyway, but their statement is funny.

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# Mod 2010-09-03 06:53
Truth of the matter is until we see the next couple of fw updates from Sony nobody knows what's going to happen. As it stands right now, those behind PS3Jailbreak are screwed. Fortunately, as we have seen, their work will not go unheard as the public scene will continue to work on the project. PSGroove's the way to go as of now but who knows what Sony has up their sleeves.

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# Alex 2010-09-03 07:25
Hey motherfucking asshole. Don't insult God.

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# Alex 2010-09-03 07:29
Fuck Sony, only if and when they start fucking with European courts. I hope they eat a huge dick from the court presidents...

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# Alex 2010-09-03 07:29
fuck Sony, I don't have a PS3

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# Alex 2010-09-03 07:33
stfu fucking noob

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# Alex 2010-09-03 07:40
Sony fills lawsuits just for "management" reasons. They already knew they couldn't win this 'war'. It's just a tactic that will not make PS3 game developers leave.

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# michal 2010-09-03 07:57
I'm Polish and I use the translator. Do not fully understand.

Does this mean that PS Jailbreak will no longer be sold? Will they have any hearing in court? Is the project will further continue PSJ?

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# PANCHITO 2010-09-03 08:05
what that means is that for now the PSJ will not be sold or maybe ever do some research there is a whole bunch of people speculating that they are writing code and are going to release it to the public for you with your PSP or iphone if its even possible

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# fat fred 2010-09-03 08:36
you must care about the hack or you wouldnt be here shithead!! so STFU

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# psyfa 2010-09-03 08:37
I had a feeling that something like this was going to happen, just feel sorry for all those who pre-purchased the dongle... bye bye money!!

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# lee 2010-09-03 09:01
I have brought a psjailbreak from spain.IS there a chance i will get it.
Or is this the end of the psjailbreak?

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# adipose 2010-09-03 09:08
Man this will trigger the fire even in other parts of the globe. Better hope this do not happen.

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# Chris Johnston 2010-09-03 09:13
How the hell is this going to be banned everywhere. Wasn't it just a couple months ago that jail breaking was deemed LEGAL?? WTF^^

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# blueman 2010-09-03 09:33
PSjailbreak will still be sold everywhere until it's made illegal by courts. But this doesnt stop you from importing it from another country.

Cant buy in oz import from japan/china/india
Cant buy in UK, import from Spain/france/denmark
Cant buy in USA come on someone must have them :P

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# Dwil 2010-09-03 09:36
Really? your this excited about being right in a comment string? get a life child.

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# lorik 2010-09-03 09:46
but hey PSJ are still out there and somebody who has one will distribute it some way or we will just understand how ps groove works and improve it bits by bits till we get backups functioning ,right ?

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# blueman 2010-09-03 09:52
Apparently the guy working on the n900 port has finished as is working

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# blueman 2010-09-03 09:53
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# Omnipotentidiot 2010-09-03 10:00
I wish one of them had tested one of these dongles on psn to let us know if online play is possible

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# WyzeGye 2010-09-03 10:14
The way I see this is, the PS3 Jailbreak is the real deal. Sony will not be able to patch this in a future firmware update. If they could,they would have already. That's why they're going on the offensive in this fashion. They're up against the ropes and they know it.

I could be wrong. but it's definitely the way it looks in my eyes.

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# yourdream8u 2010-09-03 10:52
like!

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# poopmonster 2010-09-03 11:13
@Alex stfu don't talk... I'm pretty sure God doesn't want you to defend him.

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# poopmonster 2010-09-03 11:16
@evilak once again...stop trying to make yourself look cool. Didn't I teach you not to try and look cool over the internet? Please Just stop talking.

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# poopmonster 2010-09-03 11:28
@Fat Fred I never said I didn't care about this whole thing. However I looked at this in a different perspective which is the real perspective. Apparently we will lose and it's pretty sad that everybody still believes that we could win. Sony won in Australia and that means just one thing. That, that was just the beginning. I'd be glad if I was wrong apparently I wasn't though.

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# NeCrom-X 2010-09-03 11:57
I told everyone Sony would win read the Sony copyrights or any companies copyrights. If you modify or reverse engineer something for PROFIT that is not your intellectual property you are breaking copyright laws.

If they made this just code and showed everyone how to make it themselves without profiting from it Sony couldn't do anything just like they can't sue CFW makers for the PSP because they are not selling the final product they just put it out there for everyone.

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# NeCrom-X 2010-09-03 11:58
Yep they reverse engineered Sony's coding.

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# John 2010-09-03 12:29
Can you please confirm if the source code will actually allow you to copy games to play on the PS3 as there is a blurb advising that this element of code has been blocked?

Regards. John.

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# Zero 2010-09-03 12:49
Man those Jailbrake fellas must be pretty pissed. They get screwed over with a lawsuit whereas all the clones get to make the money xD. Oh wellz serves them right for selling it at an outrageous price..at least we have the code to make our own or purchase one of those clones.

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# dylan 2010-09-03 17:18
i bet x3jailbreak is havin second thoughts on the release

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fuk off geek get a real life n a real woman u fag kids bunch of crying sissys lolz videogame fatty boys hahahaha 187 on all of ya fools

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# Joseph 2010-09-10 16:53
why aint the Wii modchips and other modchips illegal?

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# ye olde ozmod 2010-10-20 13:11
You should have seen this coming. Didn't we learn anything from the Microshaft debacle 10 years ago?

A juggernaut like Sony can make you eat 5 years of profit in 1 month if they really want to and they can afford the legal fees indefinitely. Can you?

All the best.

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