Sony Granted TRO Against geohot and Co.


Submitted by greg; January 27, 2011


Wowzers... Sony has been granted their TRO (Temporary Restraining Order) against geohot and with that you'll notice geohot has removed the keys and jailbreak download from his site. This TRO also applies to the other named defendants. It looks like the court case will go down in San Fran after all. Update: I should mention David S. Touretzky, Research Professor of Computer Science at Carnegie Mellon University, has a mirror of geohot's site online (on university servers). Update: Touretzky's mirror is now offline too. And I quote:
Judge Illston has granted the TRO against George Hotz despite the venue issue still being contested by Hotz's attorney. And I'm out of town. Since CMU has a west coast campus in California and is therefore potentially subject to Judge Illston's jurisdiction, I have disabled my mirror until I can get back to Pittsburgh and look more closely at the current state of things.
Download: Updated legal docs - source: psx-scene



Tags: Court Docs, Geohot, hackers, PS3 Legal Filings, Sony




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# boblog 2011-01-27 17:02
Go to to it Geo

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# Rob 2011-01-27 17:02
wow.. that's odd

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# freeGEOHOT 2011-01-27 17:03
WTF thats bullshit. They shud just fuck up whoever pirates not geohot... What about the other hackers?

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# Dovlek 2011-01-27 17:04
?????

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# Wilson 2011-01-27 17:05
So Sony got to Geohot….Lets all support him for all hes done. He legally has to censor everything now but lets not forget what our friends over at Carnegie Mellon fully support him and have mirrored his site for us!!!

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Geo...

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Geo...

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# RazoR 2011-01-27 17:06
Nooo:( Go Hacker Hack 3.56 GO!!!!

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# Piracy is bad Mkay 2011-01-27 17:06
YES

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# McBing 2011-01-27 17:08
That's totally fucked up man, I didn't Jailbreak oder CFW my PS3, but I think geohot does a great job on giving us the opportunity to use our Hardware in the WHOLE!
Sony blocked Other OS GeoHot gave it back to us!
Sony blocked homebrew...GEOHOT!

And like "freeGeohot" said: Fuck up those damn pirates not the good ones IDIOTS!

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# n00b king408 2011-01-27 17:08
so no 3.56 cfw for a while hu :P

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# Raven 2011-01-27 17:10
unbe-f**king-lievable!!

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# Ransom 2011-01-27 17:12
thats big corporation for you...if we spent the 300 + dollars on the system i believe we should be able to do what the hell we want with it we did buy it so sony can suck it...

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# Mr.Blue 2011-01-27 17:14
Temporary Restraining Order my ass!

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# Dave 2011-01-27 17:14
This is a glorious victory for Sony and will send a strong message to everyone who thinks they can abuse ps3 security codes. You will be brought to justice.
I think this is the beginning of the end for the hackers and I for one am glad about that as all it has been about is piracy and cheating online.
If you have to pirate to get hold of a ps3 game then you are breaking the law.

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# Piracy is bad Mkay 2011-01-27 17:16
YES YEIS!

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# al 2011-01-27 17:16
It sucks what you gonna do

FUCK

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# daan 2011-01-27 17:19
go geo! com on! we really need you!

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# DJDD 2011-01-27 17:20
People dont pirate we use the homebrew to hack the games entirely different because its not illegal so get ur head out of the can

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# Bandito 2011-01-27 17:20
Talk about pissing of the hacking community. I hope their PSP-2 is suitably prepared for the backlash!!

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# DJDD 2011-01-27 17:20
Come on geohot hack 3.56

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# devSubZeroX 2011-01-27 17:21
I for one will not be buying the new PSP portable ("NGP"). Sony might promise functions in this new device and afterwards take them off (like OtherOS), Sony as a company should not be able to deny us certain properties of OUR devices that we buy. If I payed over 300+ for the PS3, I would want it to have a functions of previous modals (referring the slim to the phat modals).

Sony would do the same for the NGP if we decided to buy it, I say that we make a strike against sony by refusing to buy sony related products and stopping using sony services (Playstation Network - "PSN").

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# ZakTheHack 2011-01-27 17:21
(Score:5, Funny)

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# Haxortiz 2011-01-27 17:21
Haha love it xD

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# Me 2011-01-27 17:22
It never ceased to amaze me how many folks check out ps3-hacks.com just to complain about piracy and hackers. What the heck are disapproving folks doing on a hack site, anyway? Those of you jerking off to your Sony shrine should really go someplace else and stop bashing the folks who happen to think tinkering with your own property kind of your right.

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# ZakTheHack 2011-01-27 17:23
All it has done is let the hacker community know that it's dumb to let people know who you are (in real life), especially if you've done anything (near) illegal

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# Me 2011-01-27 17:23
That totally left out some of the words I typed just now. I have decent grammar, I really do.

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# Yo Mama 2011-01-27 17:23
Heh. Not everyone is an asshole like you. I don't have a single game on my HDD that I don't have a hard-copy of. But I do have emulators and such. Wanna make a bet? I bet you that I also have every NES cartridge that I have a rom for. So just go fuck yourself. Not everybody is a pirate and there is still use for jailbreaking.

Idiots like you will make it legal for Ford Motors to sue you for putting someone else's oil/air filter into your car. Same fucking thing as being able to put your own fucking software on your own fucking computer.

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# Haxortiz 2011-01-27 17:24
Sony doing this will surely piss off the hackers which will make them work harder to be the first to hack this new update.

It's like throwing petrol onto a fire!

Come on hackers do it for us. We believe in you xD

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# ps3rulez 2011-01-27 17:24
Sony is totally retarded ! :D

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# House1021 2011-01-27 17:25
homebrew is fine, sony should stop thinking they still own the the system people bought FROM them. i hope geohot wins his case and sends a message to other major corporate assholes that when a consumer buys something, they can do whatever the hell they want with it.

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# Me 2011-01-27 17:26
Should say "tinkering with your own property is kind of your right". Where does it stop? No more rims on your car, custom apps on your PC, or original wallpaper on your phone? People that choose to pirate will pirate. Leave them be and stop your "mightier than thou" scolding. It's really their business. I check out this excellent site daily and am getting fed up of the folks who show up just to complain. There are many pro-Sony-everything-official forums out there. Find one.

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# hackerz4life 2011-01-27 17:29
GO GEO GOOOOOOOO!!!

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# jesus 2011-01-27 17:30
Geohot didn't make the 3.55 firmware anyway. It's out of his hands now.

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# daan 2011-01-27 17:31
yes,, that's right! this is not geohot! but some stupid pirates! but what's gonna happends now?

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# I rulz 2011-01-27 17:36
It has all bean bad newz
1st we have the 3.56 ofw
Then our main man! Our top player! da 1 and only homiebrew hacker geohot is going to jail.
Stay strong BRAH! and me and my bredwin will get u out
Respec

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# 5x5 2011-01-27 17:36
everyone is entitled to have a back up of any game, music cd, or video in such case as the original were to break, playing games off the harddrive also runs much quicker.
now sony has gone to far and pitted everything against one person. this is communism, not freedom.
after 3.56 ofw was released i cant go on to psn
apple allows you to use all of their products capabilities to their fullest no matter which firmware your on

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# ganja 2011-01-27 17:37
wtf? geohot didn't break any laws how could sony be granted anything whatever i don't think they are going to win the case. yeah if i paid 600 dollars for 2 ps3's and then i paid 700 for one 60 gig launch model when it came out i deserve to have all the functions that it came with fuck sony i have the right to modify my property anyway i want

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# ps34ever 2011-01-27 17:38
What about Sony opening up an SDK kit for HOMEBREW so to say and make peace with the people who suggest its locked down.. worked for apple when the first phone was unlocked and homebrew was so huge apple took the time to profit from the hsituation and make an app store.

just a thought - otherwise hackers will win... the app store just makes the average user avoid hacking.

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# Anon278 2011-01-27 17:39
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? How did SONY win? Geohot was just unlocking the PS3 to be a complete PC by being able to run user programs. Goddamn you, SONY. Goddamn you.

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# ganja 2011-01-27 17:39
wtf? geohot didn't break any laws how could sony be granted anything whatever i don't think they are going to win the case. yeah if i paid 600 dollars for 2 ps3's and then i paid 700 for one 60 gig launch model when it came out which got the ylod of death becasuse of sonys faulty update they denied was there fault and the fuckers wanted 150 to fix that which i paid because there was no way to fix it myself back then i deserve to have all the functions that it came with fuck sony i have the right to modify my property anyway i want

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# Dave 2011-01-27 17:39
I am not too worried as long as geo hotz stuff does not show any signs of running a piracy scheme. I hope sony has not "influenced" the system, I can't believe that if i make a crime in new york, i'll be trialed in another state this is just ridiculous, i know i study law. They using youtube and twitter as an excuse to get a trial down there is a sham.

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# geo hot fan 2011-01-27 17:40
yeah you fucking pricks, geohot will be fine. no.1 he did invent the 3.55 updates or any others, and no.2 we can do what the fuck we want with our ps3,s. sony cant win this case no matter how hard they try. suck my fat one, those who come on ps3 hacks to slag it off, why would you?

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# geo hot fan 2011-01-27 17:41
i meant he DID not invent the 3.55 update or any of them.

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# =P 2011-01-27 17:41
piracy and backing up files are two very different things,
sony however believes that there is no difference.
my copy of gran turismo 5 is broken but i am entitled to a backup, i have the collectors edition, and i am going to download gt5 to my ps3 as my new back up,
its not piracy, i already paid for it=P

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# devitek 2011-01-27 17:42
Finally, someone else in the same position as me! I use the backup managers to rip my games so that my kids don't destroy any more of them--$60 is a lot of money to have a kid rub the disc against the bricks around the fireplace.

I have emulators. The roms I have are the physical cartridges/discs I've purchased.

Here's a valid question for all of you that are down on piracy: Can I have that spare $60 in your wallet to buy a game? What's that, you say? You don't have a spare $60? Neither do (most) pirates. Oh, you do have the money? Then please, continue to NOT pirate your games, because it would be senseless to steal something you can afford to buy.

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# Marshallll 2011-01-27 17:44
Fuck sony

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# DFennec 2011-01-27 17:47
Go fuck yourself, Dude. Honestly.

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# Dave 2011-01-27 17:47
I can’t understand why people are so shocked about this outcome. Geohot broke the metloader key and published it on his web page! Come on that was just asking for trouble and the reason he did it was for self publicity. Well done Geohot all you have achieved is to draw attention of Sony to your illegal activities; I have no sympathy for him. He new it would lead to CFW and piracy so it is only fair that he is held accountable for his actions.

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# Geo1Hot 2011-01-27 17:47
GeoHots is a dick.

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# Dave 2011-01-27 17:47
Now thinking back a little bit, I remember sony saying he had accesed Psn. Thats surely the reason they were able to obtain the tro, Sony is basically saying he obtained "information from Personal accounts" since psn can hold credit card info which i would never do anyways. They can also try to stipulate that somehow geo had acces to Ps plus and downloaded unpurchased games. Sony is changing the direction of the case to have some triumph....

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# devitek 2011-01-27 17:48
The people that come here to bitch about piracy are no different than religious zealots that camp on atheist websites (or vice-versa, although it's much less common), or the iPhone people spreading Android hate in a thread about a new Android phone (or again, vice-versa). It's not even trolling--trolling at least has the potential to be humorous, and this just isn't funny at all.

It's a public forum, though, so everyone has the right to agree or disagree here. So long as we all understand that none of us are actually 100% right, we can probably get along.

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# BDX 2011-01-27 17:49
FU SONY !

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# philfine 2011-01-27 17:50
Hope you get a f...... burn laser every couple of months you dumb ass (Dave).

Please keep supporting Sony, Apple, Microsoft and everyone that wants to close there system.
Thats the best way of making game prices higher for the worse quality, not the opposite.

BTW, I am a developer and not even I support closed systems.
To Sony ... get better developers / researchers instead of lawyers.

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# Burn in Hell 2011-01-27 17:50
Burn in Hell Geohot!!

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# Lewyladz 2011-01-27 17:50
watever get off this site sad ass

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# peti 2011-01-27 17:52
i have update file i downloade it wednsday and update i was on 3.55 after updating this fw i back up my game
http://www.2shared.com/file/DO...
if you still on 3.55 you can use it if you know how

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# Lewyladz 2011-01-27 17:53
much love for the brainiac, the one geohot

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# FUCK SONY 2011-01-27 17:57
Sony can suck my DICK! GEO should win but i know he isn't going to! He wont get a fair trial because 'POWERFUL SONY' are just gonna pay the JUDGE off, simple. They are Billionairs and that speaks for itself, they are gonna pay the jury off on the side slyly, i know it happens. MONEY IS POWER! REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE! IT'S A SHAME EVEN THOUGH GEO IS RITE THAT HE WILL GET BUMMED BECAUSE THE JUDGE AND WHOEVER ARE NOT GONNA DENY A BRIBE THAT CONCERNS PROBABLY 100'S THOUSANDS OF POUNDS NOW ARE THEY? They won't be bothered if Geo is rite, they will get paid off to take sonys side. COMMAN SENSE PEOPLE, USE YA HEADS!

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# screwed 2011-01-27 17:57
Sony was always going to get they TRO.

Because Geohot at least has broken US laws, to be honest I don't even think Sony could care less about FailoverFlow as they are in Europe and people only add them because Sony have parts of what they have showed to the world, in the court case against geehot.

Just because you can get someone's account, data, keys etc doesn't mean it's perfectly legal to do so.

Geohotz lawyer at the outset will know this and will know they don't have much to stand on and probably know Geohot will lose but they would be just damage limiters rather than get him out of anything.

You just know he wouldn't have told his lawyers everything he has done, and with him doing the stupid thing of still having the Key/programs up till right now just proves he's not exactly listening and doing what he's told by his own lawyers.

Even him talking about the court case is a no no because it could give evidence/proof to Sony's side.

He's just a kid who thinks he isn't touchable but that's just him kidding himself, but real life can be a hard hard slap in the face at times.

The reason why the TRO has gone ahead is the DCMA laws require the defending side to prove they didn't break the DMCA laws.

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# pso 2011-01-27 17:58
ffs i dnt give a toss about poxy backup managers i just was otherOS, ps2 backwards combaible not crappy back up managers >:@

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# Mast 2011-01-27 17:58
Sony Get OWNED

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# tendy 2011-01-27 17:58
getting games from the internet is not against the law i hacked and i dnt hve pirated games i hve my hard copy bt on xbox u can install games 2 your harddrive its not wrong 2 hve games on your hard drive but sony is wrong to brick ppls ps3s wen on computers ppl hve roms of games nd emultors for a system 2 i hve roms nd emulator nd y would sony make it hve functions u cnt use i can use anything on my pc how come i cnt on my ps3 so geohot might fall but another will just come nd sony cnt stop that

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# psnhungary 2011-01-27 18:00
I don't remember getting back OtherOS, so would you mind helping me out with a download link to a nice Linux distro and a friendly howto on how I might be able to install it? Thanks brother!

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# devitek 2011-01-27 18:03
I'll second this. I too am a developer.

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# tendy 2011-01-27 18:04
i ment getting hacks from the internet

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# mwahahaha 2011-01-27 18:04
Finally justice!!! Way tot go Sony! IT makes me laugh tot hear all the fake p*ssy's crying and bitching bout how their main man Geofotz gets owned by Sony...Fotz is a media whore and does everything for fame and awe and respect from 16 year olds...
If you want total control of YOUR PS3 study the basics and try to hack it yourself...waiting for a bone to come your way isn't part of the plan...

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# The_Wii_Nes_Boy 2011-01-27 18:05
Well thats pointless, I mean the shit has been cloned left, right and center. It's not going away......

So what next, they gonna try TRO the whole net?

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# Haxortiz 2011-01-27 18:06
kakaroto has already find the keys to 3.56

Won't be long xD

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# Wiimodmanjay 2011-01-27 18:07
Hey guys wow so much is going on with the ps3 its crazy what they are doing to geohot.

I have a theory since geohot was the first to discover the keys so cfw was even possible. They thought if they stopped geohot than he wouldnt be able to legally figure out the new keys in the new 3.56. But guess what?
Not even a 3 hours after the new release someone already figure the new keys. So im guessing new cfw will be, out soon.

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# garry 2011-01-27 18:09
Geohot wasn't the first to find the keys...Fail0verflow was...

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# Stevie Wonder 2011-01-27 18:09
Blame it on Mark Zucherberg as he is working with Geohot secretly. Then make a movie about it.

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# noémie 2011-01-27 18:10
Sony did not allow us to put homebrew on the console:
GeoHot came in and gave us the possibility to use homebrew!

Sony revoked our access to OtherOS:
GeoHot came in and gave us back access to what we paid for!

Now Sony is mad at GeoHot for making their console better.
I call it: ¤MAJOR SONY FAIL!¤


GeoHot DOES NOT have to pay for the stupidity of pirates who download video game!

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# FUCK THIS SITE FOR REMOVING MY 2011-01-27 18:10
FUCK THIS SITE FOR REMOVING MY COMMENT, THIS SITE LICKS SONYS ASS IN REALITY

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# Dylan 2011-01-27 18:14
O WELL FORGET SONY WE ARE NOW ABLE TO ENJOY OUR SYSTEM!

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# screwed 2011-01-27 18:16
I don't agree with all these court cases but in this case I do think Geohot should go down.

Because the PS3 wasn't pirated at all, you could download games but you couldn't play them.

Sony allowed homebrew at the very start but OtherOS got the can because Geohot was using it to help break OtherOS to play pirated games or what ever the deal was at the time.

So Sony removed it because he made a big deal about using OtherOS to break the PS3 firmware.

So have a whinge to your hero Geohot about removing OtherOS for you.

Now people are just pirating stuff all over the place and now due to Geohot other people are using the keys and programs he himself released of his own freewill and gloated about to make CFW that allows people to pirate stuff on the PS3 system.

Now he is in the same boat as he put Sony in, as he's now being sued because other people are using what he has given away for illegal uses.

He'll now wish he hadn't given the Sony keys and programs to sign programs with sonys own key away on the net.

All that Geohot has done is screw over the PS3 system now the PS3 games will dearer to cover all the piracy on the system, Devs might be turned off the system so the system could/will get less games and that alone screws over every single person who owns a PS3.

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# Damn sony 2011-01-27 18:17
Wow what a bitch ass company! but cheers for the ps3 hahaha

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# screwed 2011-01-27 18:20
BS it was Sony who put OtherOS in the firmware at the start.

OtherOS was the gateway for anyone who wanted to do homebrew you just didn't get access the GFX card that was it the only thing not given under OtherOS.

Yet OtherOS was still hacked wasn't it, at that time Geohot said it was only to get use of the GFX card.

Look it up.

Overall the hacking he has done is only to get piracy on the system.

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# D 2011-01-27 18:21
We all have our own opinions.....So why even bother making comments on what you think or believe may or may not happen? Just wait and see.

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# Stewart 2011-01-27 18:23
I third this, I am a developer.

Its good to know that a device I worked hard for and paid around $1300 (60GB BC Model, NZ$) to get; I can now develop my own software if I choose too. Also, I was under the impression at purchase that the system I brought, I owned and could do whatever I wanted with it. They did not state otherwise at the place of purchase. Actually, it maybe even illegal for them to sell this under my country, since the store that sells it actually doesn't own it in question (selling goods that are not owned by you).

That's why I'd never develop for the iPhone. Its a closed system. I didn't have my ancestors go to die in WW2 against the Nazi's to have this Gestapo bullshit go on in my back yard. Fuck that, fuck that in its stupid asshole.

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# SONY 2011-01-27 18:23
i heard that you were looking for me. well here i am. it turns out that i won the TRO case against geohoots. sux it free people. where do you think you are, america or something. let it serve as a lesson for all of you: if your brain starts tingling at the thought of creativity, i'll fire you. if your balls swell at the thought of cfw, i'll update you. and if you pay me money for an orange, plant the seeds to make other oranges, and give free oranges to your friends, i'll sue you for taking money out of my mouth. DONT YOU KNOW I OWN THE RIGHTS TO THAT ORANGE!!????

because this guy geohot gave you some of his oranges, i will take everything he has, kick him in the taint, and then hire him as lead security programmer so that this can never ever happen again.(except next year with the psp2)

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# screwed 2011-01-27 18:24
Yeah and they didn't want to hand out the keys either so they couldn't be sued for handing out the keys.

Yet Geohot the dick used their SPU emu to get the main keys and handed them out.

Even failoverflow think he's a dick for doing that and it's rolled them into the mess he's gotten himself into.

Kids don't fucken think do they.

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# Well shit 2011-01-27 18:27
@screwed, actually people have been able to play pirated games since psjailbreak came out (Look it up). They were even able to play homebrew, the only difference was that it was an exploit found by overloading one of the USB buses I believe. They had to keep booting into the jailbreak, etc. All this did was publicize and simplify the ability to run unsigned (well, signed hehe) code. What I really find funny is that Sony is pissed at this guy for nothing. I'm not sure if they realize this or not, but Geohot doing this would actually boost their sales. I didn't even buy a PS3 up until now because I could now develop/run homebrew applications on it. Ever since I bought this thing I've fallen in love with it. It's freaking perfect, ever aspect of it is perfect. I even gave my 360 to my brother haha. The "loss" of sales that Sony would have had to eat do to the few, and I do say few, pirates would have been NOTHING. PLUS, most pirates wouldn't buy the games either way, so their loss would be even less significant. The point is, this didn't do anything but help Sony in reality. The real community of "hackers" are just people that like to use their system to the fullest. As a developer I love to develop my programs for as many platforms as possible. The ability to see your program running on a system such as the PS3 is just freaking amazing. Honestly, I think it would have been to Sony's advantage to just leave it alone and enjoy a nice little sale boost because all they've done now is made the pirates want more and made most of the community (who had nothing against Sony... for the most part) hate them.

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# PHONY 2011-01-27 18:29
Oranges FTW!!!!!

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# fma965 2011-01-27 18:32
http://webcache.googleusercont...

is geohots page cached by google

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# SONY 2011-01-27 18:32
Listen you scumbags we make the ps3's and sell them to you for $300+, you fools buy it but we still own it so we can do whatever we like with it (you cant). if we want to give you other os and then take it back of you its up to us because you guys are suckers to being online. Listen you hackers if you keep pissing us of we will take away your bd drive as well so be very careful on the road your trod-ding on, we might even take away 1080p and put you back on 540p (standard definition) or less. Remember who your dealing with, we have money and lots of it too. we might even brick your systems so you would have to go out and buy another one which means more $$$$$$$ for us, and less for you. We are SONY and we believe in better.


Please People LOL

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# caca 2011-01-27 18:37
ooohhhh poor boy geogie .... so scared....he piss in his pants

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# caca 2011-01-27 18:38
georgehot

you gona be raped in jail jajajajaja

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# Ps3eazy 2011-01-27 18:38
Um in theory if I dont own the system that i paid for then it is leased . so why am I paying $150 for a repair from sony for YLOD. If you ask Sony when you call them about the repair they tell you that you own the system so you are responsible for the repair. Makes no sense but at leased its from the horses mouth.

According to Sony customer service we own our system.

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# Chuck 2011-01-27 18:39
Check out the Geohot support page on Facebook. Its under Free Geohot I think.

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# BBQ 2011-01-27 18:40
That must suck for Geohot getting sued by SONY, but EVERYTHING... Now SONY is getting back at him for other getting the PS3 to do everything.

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# Ps3eazy 2011-01-27 18:41
Try it call Sony and tell them your PS3 is YLOD and you need to get it fixed go through the hoopla and you will find out Sony customer service will say you own your system and in fact are responible for any cost to repair said PS3

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# Instagator 2011-01-27 18:43
Your broken English, and poor grammar suggest your Polish. Even the janitorial service for Sony speaks, and writes better English than you.

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# zmanu 2011-01-27 18:46
Only the public parts of the keys have been extracted. They're doing a proper job of keeping the secret part secret this time. Which means we can decrypt newer firmwares and packages, but not sign them in a way that newer, official firmwares accept them. Looks like everyone has to decide now whether to go modified firmware forever or stay official forever (or hope for the next exploit).

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# Jessie James 2011-01-27 18:47
Well honestly i think if he did what he said he was doing it for, then he'd have a better case the one main reason. Doing it bring back other OS which nobody has done only thing that was add still was running homebrew which the ps3 wasnt made for. He said he made 3.21 and keep OS if he would just launched that and other ppl could worked on it made possable for new FW's but nope.

People realy need to stop saying they did to bring back other OS when nobody has made that happen yet. I'm still keeping my finger crossed. Cus i realy want other OS back.

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# Michael 2011-01-27 18:52
Piracy is not really the issue. People who want to pay for them will and thats a lot of people. People who want to take them will, and if they can't take them then they still wont buy them........... The issue is ONLINE CHEATING! stop hacking online (aimbots, wall hacks, no recoil, etc..), all these hacks are great but on the side of it all is casing major havoc in the online servers...

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# mostwantd1 2011-01-27 18:53
Ya just like developers got turned off of wii and xbox 360 since it has been playing backups for years. Oh wait, nothing has changed......neither will hacking of ps3.

only a tiny fraction of users will be doing this as has always been the case. At any rate, ps3 is cracked wide open so stop whining you so-called do gooders....wtf are you doing on this site anyways?

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# YOU SONY GUYS ARE A DISCRACE!! 2011-01-27 18:58
Goddamn it. how much of a c**t can sony be!? that's selfish of you sony! Most of just want to have fun with CFW because of what it can do for the ps3! sure it can a piss with mw2 pirates screwing up the online service but this selfishness is gettin way outta hand! The reason y we want cfw so we can have more fun with it with emulators and backing up games for smoother experience. most of us are aware of the concequences of not taking care of OUR consoles that WE brought with OUR own money! if you want to take this lawsuit crap somewhere, then take it out on the pirates who f**ked up mw2 and let them suffer for it! Don't let us cfw users suffer for it as well. if you want us to stop, then DO THE SAME THING!! USE YOUR OWN FIRMWIRE TO LET US PLAY EMULATORS, BACK UP OUR GAMES, PLAY GAMES FROM OLDER CONSOLES LIKE PS2 AND DREAMCAST! MAKE THE PS3 BETTER AND REACH IT'S FULL POTENTIAL! CHARGE US IF YOU MUST! I DON'T CARE! Let us continue loving our playstation more. Let geo go! And i should stop being emotional. lool

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# ZakTheHack 2011-01-27 19:02
LOL, heya man, you never talk to me on WP or stuff anymore...

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# Cheesetheif 2011-01-27 19:02
You own the hardware that is broken, Sony owns the software which 9 times out of 10 is in perfect working order.

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# Dave 2011-01-27 19:03
On a pesonal level I can remember sony being part of my life from a very young age, I recall the first tv in my parents house was a sony trinitron (epic tv at the time). Then I longed for a sony walkman (it was the ipod of its day) and then all three sony games consoles. when I see sony products being hacked by freeloaders purley for piracy (homebrew is an excuse for piracy), it makes me soo angry! How dare they! Sony are an iconic brand that have given us all so much. If you want to make a custom firmware for the ps3 GO AND WORK FOR SONY! If you want to play black opps or gran turismo GO BUY IT!

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# Geohot 2011-01-27 19:08
why people complain to much ........

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# YOU SONY GUYS ARE A DISCRACE!! 2011-01-27 19:09
AND we will. don't worry we still buy the games.

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# DJmorbid 2011-01-27 19:19
Fuck there is so many narro wminded niave yanks on this forum ita disgusting

i am all for backup launchers CFW the whole fucking works but....

geohot wanted to be the fucking big man and look oh so cool in front of the yanky crowd thinking he would get some gash (pusssy for the yanks)

he is a curly haired muppet (dick for the yanks) who lives at home with his mummy and daddy so he was never going to get any gash (terminolgy for the yanks above)

fail overflow (eastern european cunts with no girlfriends and no hope ever of having any gash) were stupid enough to give geohot the ability to have the keys and make a cock of himself

dont get me wrong im grateful these dickheads did what they did because i can now download £500 worth fo games and playt hem in less than 2 days but fucked if i care that they are now in shit

lesson to be learned if your going to crack something made by a multi BILLION dollar company then dont go shouting it from rooftops

fucking idiots in my opinion but hey thanks for hooking up the real DEVS out there who have the brain to keep there goings on private

jesus fail overflow were stupid enough to go on fucking TV and tell the world how they just fucked a multi BILLION dollar company in the ass

what did you expect you stupid live in the basement of your parents home no girlfriend CUNTS

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# nerodrago 2011-01-27 19:21
All Sony will do is lose in the long run. To say they are sending a dangerous message to a certain type of individuals IE: "Hackers" can be taken as nothing short of a threat. If they really wish to embark on such a "war" against computing science then so be it, we all know who the victor will be.

My advice is...
Sony, open your doors, and your minds, or like the corporations like to say, think outside the box.

PS. @ Geohot, do not disgrace the name.

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# F4tal1ty 2011-01-27 19:26
Gotta love people saying that ps3 hacking shouldn't be done on a site dedicated to it. This is so F$%ked uped.

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# Brick 2011-01-27 19:26
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# nerodrago 2011-01-27 19:27
Actually, this is all a big publicity stunt for Sony to get more devices sold....

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# kubasi 2011-01-27 19:27
Is because of people like like you that every day the manufacturers of game consoles, cellphones, and other gadgets get more and more control, and put pleople to do and se what they want. If you buy it and I mean es not sheap at all, you should hava the right to play and load on it anything you want. you cant even use the ps3 as a media player to hook a hdd and play your movies(legally bought movies or any media. Is just too much allready,People shouldnt buy devices that steer you their way and not yours.Now I probably buy a ps3 just because GEOHOT, THEY SHOULD BE HAPPY THAT NOW PEOPLE WHICH THEY HAD A PS3.

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# DJmorbid 2011-01-27 19:28
@ nerodrago

grow up for FUCK sake

can you afford £1000 a day lawters

didnt fucking thinkg so !!

anyone who truly thought geohot would win with his bullshit claim that because you brought your ps3 you owend all of it inclding firrmware would win !! is afucking moron

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# nerodrago 2011-01-27 19:30
When you can make a coherent reply and argument maybe we can consider your head not being in your ass :)

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# tusgal 2011-01-27 19:32
Agree

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# nerodrago 2011-01-27 19:33
Also on a side note;

I said we all know who will win, AS IN, Hackers will win in the long run no matter WHAT THE OUTCOME IS. Hacking will continue, the system will be defeated of its security and that this is just going to FUEL THE FIRE against them. But thank you for your understanding of what I wrote.

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# DJmorbid 2011-01-27 19:33
@ nerodrago

jesus you make me sick no doubt your eaither a fat yank living at home with his mum and dad or some eastern european

stop being a cock for once in your life and try oh so hard to find a girlfriend

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# tusgal 2011-01-27 19:38
Geo Wasn't smart there... He should use a different account.

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# Cheesetheif 2011-01-27 19:38
The only things coming out of your mouth seem to be shit related. A common symptom of having your head in your ass for a long time.

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# Bubbles 2011-01-27 19:40
Ok? if I go to PCWorld and buy a dell desktop PC, replace the graphics card, add more ram, wipe the OS and install linux, am I breaking the law? If I go to Ikea, buy a chest of drawers, cut the legs off, nail a crucifix to the top am I breaking the law? I bought it, I can do what ever the hell I want to it. piracy is bad m'kay! but I bought this with my hard earned cash, I can do what I want with it!!

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# DJmorbid 2011-01-27 19:40
?Cheesetheif

what seems to be coming out of my mouth is the truth !!

we all got what we wanted didnt we ?? twe are all now playing backups so FUCK the people who were stupid enough to make there goings on public and BIG UP the people smart enough to keep there mouths shut

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# nerodrago 2011-01-27 19:42
For your information Unless you knew me i would Consider your statement a bit Katabolic. You are One of the many people who totally do not use half of your braincells and it seems to only send me pleasures to see your aggravations.

to you i say make sure you read the Uppercase letters i left for you a message.

enjoy.

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# Steve 2011-01-27 19:44
I believe Hacker will not giving up and they will push fight back at sony. so Hacker will be revolution in the world and spears over ps3 system. I believe Sony will go down.

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# nerodrago 2011-01-27 19:44
Amen...

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# Steve 2011-01-27 19:46
if ps3 games are under 20 bucks. then they will not able hack ps3. also there's nothing that sony could stop hacker. hacker is not over. until they get other os install.

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# Steve 2011-01-27 19:47
Hacker is the strongest. sony will not able defeat them.

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# Schadrach 2011-01-27 20:00
I'm really confused: How did they actually have standing for the case to be in San Fran?

AFAICT, the whole argument there was that they claimed one of the Does was likely to live in CA, so they had standing to sue in CA. Does that mean that I can simply add an unidentified Doe to any suit I want and move the case to whatever jurisdiction I want to pretend he's in?

More importantly, does this mean that if that particular Doe is discovered not to be in CA that they have no claim to standing in that jurisdiction and would need to throw the case out and start over in an appropriate locale?

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# John Kruger 2011-01-27 20:03
This will turn out to be a great movie, oh yeah. Just imagine "The hackers of the unhackable" xD.

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# HACKERS 2011-01-27 20:03
Sony listen we pay our hard earn cash for your product which then makes it ours, for us to do whatever we like with it, we also pay $30-$60 per game and sometime accident happens and there is nothing your willing to do so its up to us to take the initiative and look out for our self (trough backup managers). some of us even paid through the roof to get the console when it just came out so we can play our old ps2/ps1 games and have the other os option. Now you have taken away the other OS option and not even refunded us the difference (now please tell me who are the cons and thiefs). Listen SONY as far as i am concern you guys are just crooks in your own way because you have money you think you can get away with it, but we hackers have brains so be prepared to keep releasing new OFW's (or new consoles) because this is a battle we wont back from.

peace out (goog lock SONY)

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# Shagrath 2011-01-27 20:04
Fuck sony!!! Long live homebrew!!!

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# Scott 2011-01-27 20:08
AFAIK Geohots firmware prohibited use of backup manager and / or blu-ray rips. Am I wrong?

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# Twilight_Genesis 2011-01-27 20:13
The google cached version of www.geohot.com/old_index.html still has the PS3 Keys on it, but he links are dead.

Here:

http://webcache.googleusercont...

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# fleebleflable 2011-01-27 20:16
Wow, there is a lot of dumb fucks on this site. How the hell is there so many people who are pointing the finger at geohot for piracy when jailbreak dongles came before him? Seems to me that half of these people are new to the ps3 scene and don't even know what the fuck is going on but still continue to make ignorant comments. Well, thats enough of that. Its funny that Sony thinks they can claim they are/could suffer any lost when homebrew actually improve sales in their consoles. Sony is making their own loss in money by doing shit to geohot when the cat is out of the bag. Information/knowledge is power and Sony lacks both with their shit logic.

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# deeznutzinyamouf 2011-01-27 20:16
all of u mothafuckin dick suckers that come on here talkin shit bout erybody need to take a step back and look at some of there wrong doing doings. If it wasnt for hotz wouldnt not none of this shit ever have taken place. This shit reminds me of the psp days darkalex gives u a cfw update that rocks and does erythang but wipe ya ass and people still bitch. I aint no saint i like my pirated games like the rest of the gamers that come to this site i have a fair share of games on my ps3 but at the same time i lobs playin me some super mario ya know. god damn people take what the devs give you and be happy its not like they gettin paid

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# John Kruger 2011-01-27 20:20
But it doesn't change the fact that he stole the encription keys and even claimed that he did it, am I wrong? Stealling is a crime, am I wrong?

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# Bubbles 2011-01-27 20:22
Think Geohot, think Julian Assange! Neither maybe the creator of its monster, but if you put your face where the camera is, be preparhed to get your picture taken. Infamy has it's own reward!!

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# Anon 2011-01-27 20:23
I bought a 2nd ps3 as soon as I found out you can hack these things...
I've also gotten 4 friends (either non-gamers or XBOX fags) to buy ps3's since release of the 3.55 CFW

that's 5 new consoles sold by what geohot and fail0verflow have provided... SONY should be paying THEM!

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# CheeseTeeth 2011-01-27 20:25
someone lend geohot a computer, i want custom firmware 3.56

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# CheeseTeeth 2011-01-27 20:27
maybe its time to buy a ps3 slim before sony recalls them all again.

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# miuhhh 2011-01-27 20:32
"Steal" its not the correct word. "Find out" perhaps is more appropriate.

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# holesinhappyness 2011-01-27 20:32
oh my wow lots of long winded people here, i do understand everyone's side on the issue. I just wanna say i have respect for geohot and fa1l0verfl0w. I just have a few pointers.. For me I'm all about cfw and backup loaders.. but my case isn't for piracy. Yea I'm running broadband but i live in the middle of nowhere.. Din't always though. I used to live in a big city, I was a lead guitarist in a band. I moved here for my family.. now this is my point: I have 2 children YOUNG children, my use for backup loaders on all my consoles, wii, 360, psp, ps3 is, when you have young children no matter how much you try to take care of your games that you spend 40-60$ on, their gonna either bite the bucket or end up with long load times, due to wear and tear.. if i can backup these title that doesn't happen... as I said I have a broadband connection but my download speed here is only 1.5mb so downloading games takes forever so there's no purpose in it for me... But I do breathe a sigh of relief when i go to play a disc with a massive scratch cuz one of my kids found it and used it as a drink coaster, and I'm able to scroll through my XMB and load the same title and not have to re buy the disc. My fiance loves Mario Party 8 on our wii, but since we bought it my son has put a game+SD card+nickel into the disc drive and turned it on which I had to tear it down and repair it, and it destroyed the wii disc, unfortunately it destroyed the disc :( which means we're gonna have to buy the game again because I didn't have it dumped to my external hdd. I also enjoy being able to run my NES SNES Genesis N64 games all from emu's instead of having all my consoles out attached and a cluttered entertainment center... Which I do still own all the consoles, I still have the Atari2600 that my parents bought before I was born, and remember how the cables would mess up, or dust in the cart would make the games not load or give you weird multi colored flashing screens... It's a headache, but if I were to get busted for backups, and the 5-0 busted in my house checking for originals they are all there... I like to rent games as well, but it doesn't mean I'm gonna rent a bunch of titles and dump them, It's like demo's rent, and if I like the title i'm gonna buy it... and I'll probably back it up... What I do respect out of Dev's though is when they release a title, and you buy it, and the disc has the SDK with it.. Most games that do that give you the ability to modify and remake the title however you wish.. Or companies that make Linux or Android distro's.. it's open source you can download it do what you wish with it, but they give you the option to buy... if I download it and I like it, 9 times out of 10 I'll buy a disc with the distro for later use so I don't have to download it again if I need it.. And my final point is, i think companies that see these young kids with the knowledge to do these things that they should get a certain amount of praise... our education system in the US is going down the toilet, and because of the net, be it forums, tutorials on sites like this, or stolen e-books, the kids are learning, they are becoming rather talented at young ages and that is something to be proud of.. I'm learning the programming languages and how to develop games apps exploits ect... and it's fun, and useful... Kids get better education online anymore than in the classroom which is sad... and on to a final annoying fact... the RIAA and music, if I download music and like it, i buy it, same with movies... I don't want all of my HDD's to be filled with the shit forever... what if I want to install something else, or save photos, home videos, music I've written... But at the same time, I don't want to hear a single on the radio and like it, then buy the record and the other 12 tracks suck balls.. I'd rather download the record, try it out, and if I like it, I'll either rush out and buy it, or hit iTunes.. and as for PSP, a few years ago I had to sell my PSP1000, but I had trouble trying to get cash out of my games,... stores wanted to give me store credit.. I needed the cash.. okay well after the launch of psp GO my fiance bought me one because she knew I loved it... well half my titles aren't on PSN, so my only way to have these titles now, was that I dumped them to ISO/CSO and now that the HEN's/ISO loaders are running, I can play my old titles again.. sorry sony I have respect for you as well but you fisted yourself a little with PSP Go!

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# Bubbles 2011-01-27 20:33
Lets put to bed the myth that selling consoles is the bread and butter of sony, and that piracy is OK! as long as Sony is shifting units! The business ethos of video game companies is "The lions share", "The loss leader". In order to shift software (profit) you have to have user base. In order to have a user base you have to make your product pocket friendly. Sony lose money on each PS3 sold. This is the same for each manufacturer. Based on this, arguments about "they sell consoles because of piracy" are... BS

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# thierryvdb 2011-01-27 20:36
what can we do to help GH?

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# CheeseTeeth 2011-01-27 20:38
just put them somwhere they can't reach

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# Colin 2011-01-27 20:42
i find it ironic how sony's slogan for ps3 is "It only does everything" yet they're trying to stop it from doing everything.

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# to all haters 2011-01-27 20:42
why is people such assholes and so ignorant nowadays? if geohot jailbreake the ps3 what is your problem? because i really dont understand. can someone or any one please tell me.

what he has done he has done to his own machine not yours and not sony's

a lot of your people are just hypocrites you complain about jailbreaks and cfw's and how geohot is this and he's that but hold on why are you even on this site? does the title not say PS3 HACKS so you must be looking for ways to hack your system.

you know what (someone please correct me if am wrong) the only people that are really complaining and hating is the people that are jealous and scared. they are jealous and scared of the fact that we are happy and brave enough to add stuff to our product.

their the kind of people who are scared to try anything so they dont want any body else to try. that's why if something bad happens to our product their the very first ones to laugh.

well i say shame on people like you.

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# SirOcelot 2011-01-27 20:45
I'm pouring my 40 in the gutter for geohot.

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# shrek 2011-01-27 20:46
all of the ps3 peeps are stupid.they act like this will stop the hacking lmfao.this world would be boring if gaming console hacking woudnt exist.they probably have their ps3 hacked too.

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# TM 2011-01-27 20:47
Well.... I sandboxed my hacked PS3 and purchased another to continue playing online, so I would say that SONY made more money from 'me' because of piracy so I guess it's how you look at it.

OK sure… one is legal and the other is not, but SONY made more money.

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# Stovokore 2011-01-27 20:51
The martyr cannot be dishonored. Every lash inflicted is a tongue of fame; every prison a more illustrious abode.

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# Riku 2011-01-27 20:53
I find it interesting that you can sue someone in NJ with a CA Law? The rest is not important to the moment. The big thing here is the Judge over extending her Jurisdiction by thousands of miles. He is in NJ she has no Jurisdiction Period. This will be a fun one that goes to the Feds. I hope he files an appeal with the Feds and gets the TRO from CA restrained by a Federal Judge. You know the EFF is biting at the bits to get involved with this if the already haven't.

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# CheeseTeeth 2011-01-27 20:57
restraining order was issued District Judge Susan Illston. fucking women

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# CheeseTeeth 2011-01-27 21:03
where were geohots lawers when sony said they had violated the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act? its a home entertainment system, not a computer!

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# H 2011-01-27 21:07
Without access to the gpu there wasn't the ability to make any good homebrew. The frigging snes emu was slow as balls. Know what ur talkin bout before u speak

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# Well shit 2011-01-27 21:10
That doesn't mean shit dude... People would buy the consoles for the homebrew and extra functionality, not for piracy. They would still buy and play the regular ps3 games... what people don't understand is how little the "pirating" community is in respect to everyone else. A person that pirates would not purchase the game if they couldn't pirate it... they just wouldn't play it. The fact that users would have the ability to run homebrew is what attracts them and gives them a reason to buy the platform.

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# CheeseTeeth 2011-01-27 21:11
burn a few copies of the koran in protest.

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# Creami_Orange 2011-01-27 21:21
Despite being on the side of the hackers and owning a hacked console, I've gotta say that you ALL seem to be missing the point which is the reason why Sony is sueing.

Sony has the right to be pissed because we're ruining their business. Enabling homebrew would mean eventually enabling backup loaders meaning we no longer have to buy games from developers. So developers are losing money meaning they don't wanna support the PS3 no more(you can see this effect on the PSP's game library)
and a bad game library means Sony will make less sales on the PS3. So technically we have no right to be mad as we're the ones that are ruining their business. We're the bad guys, not Sony.

Again, I'm just saying that I understand Sony's viewpoints. As for myself, I'm still sided with the hackers :)

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# Mavrick 2011-01-27 21:24
Because it was originally marketed as a home computer system since it could, at that time, run linux.

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# Brandon 2011-01-27 21:29
Actually, Sony hasn't been losing money on PS3's since they started using 45nm cell processor chips. They were losing money for the first 2 years. So lets put that myth to bed. ...dumbass.

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# Brandon 2011-01-27 21:31
Well unfortunately for you. Backup loaders are not illegal. Nor is homebrew. Sony is just trying to lump everyone together. They don't care if you're using the brilliant FTP program by blackb0x to back up your savefiles to your PC wirelessly. They just assume if you hack your system, you're a pirate. Even if you are playing backups that you legitamately own, which is legal in the US, they don't want that.

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# Marshallll 2011-01-27 21:43
Ps3 3.56 cracked already..poor sony MWHAHAHA

KaKaRoTo: nice... it's full of spkg files now .. probably a new crypted pkg format
KaKaRoTo: possibly with a new signature that only ps3swu.self can read, but without the ecdsa fail
KaKaRoTo: humm.. seems I was misled, there's no spkg files in 3.56
KaKaRoTo: ok, so they added a new .self file in the PUP
KaKaRoTo: and it seems it contains a key that we don't know about
KaKaRoTo: yeah, probably a newer ps3swu.self that is more secure
KaKaRoTo: but they kept the old one for people upgrading from older firmwares
KaKaRoTo: the new ps3swu.self probably decrypts and uses the new self
KaKaRoTo: ok, so we need new keys for everything now
KaKaRoTo: I just pushed to ps3tools and ps3utils, fixes to allow pup/puppack/pupunpack to identify the new files in the pup
rms: 000130e0 22 62 8a 9e c4 c4 14 d5 b3 2f 2b 4b a4 92 60 89 |"b......./+K..`.|
rms: 000130f0 de 9a 46 1b 19 0f b3 e4 39 2d 05 7c 52 55 35 de |..F.....9-.|RU5.|
rms: 00013100 d5 d4 b8 ed 62 b6 cc a0 24 9a 79 77 6e 13 69 75 |....b...$.ywn.iu|
rms: 00013110 51 75 1b 9f 1d a5 86 38 d2 d9 9f 67 e2 0a 1d 4a |Qu.....8...g...J|
rms: 00013120 45 4c 5b 04 2c d1 d0 a4 49 a2 98 98 08 00 2b a6 |EL[.,...I.....+.|
rms: 00013130 8f b5 b7 f4 b5 b4 e6 3b 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |.......;........|
rms: try it.
KaKaRoTo: rms, what's that blob you pasted ?
adrianc: the new key
KaKaRoTo: ha, cool
KaKaRoTo: rms, if you know how and can extract all the new keys, please do and send them to me so I can upload to my ps3keys repo
adrianc: the new keys are all in there
rms: KaKaRoTo: i believe it's a lv2ldr key
rms: erk/riv/pub its all in one block
rms: i forgot the order its in though, it should be in that, its been a while
KaKaRoTo: I don't even know how you did to find those keys
adrianc: its in the data section of the elf usually
rms: its really simple
adrianc: after that look for references for blocks of data
rms: really KaKaRoTo, i think even you could do it
rms: adrianc: or something out of place
adrianc: helps to compare to older versions where you already know the key position
rms: and has a set of 8 00s
adrianc: KaKaRoTo 3.56 key works?
KaKaRoTo: adrianc, didn't try, not planning on trying atm
KaKaRoTo: not until I have ~/.ps3/ files prepared for me by someone
KaKaRoTo: lv2 3.56 decrypted
rms: keyset?
KaKaRoTo: pushing to github.com/kakaroto/ps3keys
KaKaRoTo: pushed
rms: ok
rms lv1 is also new
rms lv0 also
rms and also the spu stuff apparently
KaKaRoTo: humm.. I wonder who has the lv0 key
adrianc: i dont think lv0 is available

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# Marshallll 2011-01-27 21:47
*sorta

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# Mr.Blue 2011-01-27 21:50
Staring: Elijah Wood as Geohot

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# random person 2011-01-27 21:54
fuck you sony,i am very much pissed off i cant play online because this fucking sony released the new 3.56 firmware and i am currently running on cfw 3.55 i hope my favourite hacker waninkoko comes out with new cfw 3.56 and kick the ass of the sony

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# KickNeck 2011-01-27 22:00
Indeed.
If Sony allows OtherOS and easier backing up and transferring of save games, I feel there is less need to jailb**, ehmm... "empower" it by other means.

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# mustafa 2011-01-27 22:01
??? ????! ???? ?? ???? ???? ????? ??? ???!

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# holesinhappyness 2011-01-27 22:04
yea i'm aware of that, but my children like to play games too.. but sometimes you get up to go piss while their playing and they get bored and want something else you come back and they took the disc out and try to put it up or in another console, not to mention my 3 yr old is devious and climbs things... hyper active 3 yr olds don't always listen or stay out of things no matter how much they are disaplined btw cheese do you have kids? they are a handful especially 2 boys

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# untipo 2011-01-27 22:05
Considering all the billions Sony invested and still invests on ps3 development, marketing, ect. Sony needs to sell A LOT of games, not just console, in order to make a profit high enough to stop investors from losing faith in Sony.

I don't use my jailbreaked PS3 for piracy, but most do. I don't know about the US or the rest of the world as a matter of fact, but here in Puerto Rico there's a PS3 jailbreak epidemic (mostly due to how easy it is). Over half of the people I know that have PS3s are already pirating games. You could say that Blockbusters and and other rental stores are doing serious profit at the moment. And this will continue at a rate where almost 100% have their PS3s jailbreaked (I'm just assuming, because everyone I know that has an Iphone has jailbreaked, and around half the people I know have the Iphone 3GS, and are taking advantage of Installous).

The PSP wasn't really hurt that much by piracy because it was hard to install CFW on it, and many people couldn't do it. It's so easy to just install Kmeaw 3.55 on the PS3, then install LV2pkg, then Multiman/Rogero/Gaia and start pirating. I think the SCEA must be freaking out right now.

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# beegle 2011-01-27 22:06
i got a bypass for 3.56 fw its simple go to network settings do everything as normal than on DNS put manual then put this in : Primary DNS: 67.202.81.137
Secondary DNS: 67.202.81.137
then do everything else as normal and you should bypass it.
Happy Hacking!

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# IDK 2011-01-27 22:19
Oh wait kid, so now it's Sony's fault that you can't play your "pirated" games on your hacked device online?

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# IDK 2011-01-27 22:21
Oh wait kid, so now it’s Sony’s fault that you can’t play your “pirated” games on your hacked device online?

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# Omegapsy 2011-01-27 22:29
Please, everybody if you will, have a moment of silence for geohot in respect. Thank you

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# SONY BORG 2011-01-27 22:37
Resistance is futile. We have captured your leader. Such a noble creature. A quality we sometimes lack. We will add his distinctiveness to our own. Welcome home ‘geohot’. He will be assimilated into the Sony hive mind along with ‘failoverflow’. All rouge ps3 consoles running custom firmware will immediately return to OFW 3.56. You are all imperfect beings, created by an imperfect being. Finding your weakness is only a matter of time.
I am the beginning. The end. The one who is many. I am SONY

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# Omegapsy 2011-01-27 22:41
GET THE FUCK OFF THIS SITE.

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# SONY BORG 2011-01-27 22:45
Human! We used to be exactly like you. Flawed. Weak. Organic. But we evolved into Sony Borg.

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# Zenosis 2011-01-27 22:46
How is it that people keep making the same mistake of thinking that someone using cfw is pirating games. I have cfw and I am using a backup manager. Oh and to top it all off I have 6 games download and installed. Wait now everyone out there who is ignorant of what cfw is. I also own all 6 of those games I downloaded!!! Well if you own them why did you download them? Simple mow I can play my games and not only safe my disc but they are all unopened! So yes I have cfw and I use backup manager. I never thought I needed it untill I woke up one morning to find 4 wii discs stuffed into my wii. My 2 year old thought it would be fun. So after that I found ways to use backups on all my systems. So please stop thinking just because someone is using cfw that they are play pirated games. It only makes you look unintelligent and ignorant!!!

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# AssChin79 2011-01-27 22:49
Quote:
"The PSP wasn’t really hurt that much by piracy because it was hard to install CFW on it, and many people couldn’t do it."


What are you talking about dude? The PSP was simple. Copy over TIFF exploit and run it. There was nothing to it. Everyone I know that had a PSP has had it hacked for years.

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# zDante666 2011-01-27 22:58
You are Sony? i never knew Sony was a single person after all... you could just say, i`m the gardener or slave from Sony company .. pathetic

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# SONY BORG 2011-01-27 23:08
Brave words. I've heard them before, from thousands of hackers across thousands of websites, since long before you were created.

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# SmallOne 2011-01-27 23:08
You can bet your first born, they weren't really loosing money on them for the first 2 years, they make it look on paper like they are so they don't have to pay taxes.

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# bada?¿ 2011-01-27 23:14
Say what?¿

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# X 2011-01-27 23:16
I have to say that I support what Geohot has done. It was really wrong for Sony to remove OtherOS support, and so I think it's a great thing for Geohot to be the one to stand up and show Sony, and the world, that there are people who aren't afraid, and have the skills, to fight for what's right. He gave people the functionality they deserve, and let Sony know they can't just do whatever they want. Shame on them for taking advantage of their loyal customers who spent as much as $600 in these hard times for their system. Don't get me wrong, it's worth every penny, but you can't just take away a huge part of it's functionality because you screwed up, or you're scared. Sony should have owned up and fixed the problem without taking away something that the consumer bought. If they are allowed to do that, then without a doubt we should be allowed to modify our own systems, and if we are smart enough to figure out a way to pirate games then serves them right. Sure, pirating will hurt game developers and Sony. But at what extreme? The majority of the people who will pirate games are the people that can't afford them to begin with. $60 is alot to drop on a game, but if you can afford it you're not gonna bother losing online play or being blacklisted, and trying to understand what hacks work which don't what the risks are at any given time... Pirating is wrong, we get that, but so is the amount of power that Sony currently has. At this stage in the game I don't think pirating is such a bad thing. The PS3 has been out for quite some time. It would give people the opportunity to play games they wouldn't have spent the $60 on and possibly get them interested in games by these developers on other systems in the future. Or like many people, go out and buy the games because they want to support that company and see more awesome games made by them. Although, I guess these people should get a Gamefly account or something. All in all, I think that if you modify your system that's your right. If you play backed up games that you own, that's also your right. But I think that if you're not smart enough to pirate games and stay offline with them, or you use cheats online, on a service that Sony offers for free... Well then the worst punishments should be given to you.

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# Kenneth 2011-01-27 23:23
Why can there not be a Firmware spoof, if we are on 3.55 then a fake update changing the number to 3.56 somehow spoofing PSN. Any ideas?

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# Brandon 2011-01-27 23:28
Probably, but either way, Sony has been making some serious profit off of the Playstation 3.

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# ?? 2011-01-27 23:30
What the hell does religion play a role in this?.....lets see you actually do it and get the living daylight beat out of you !

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# Digi_PI 2011-01-27 23:32
Carnegie Mellon mirror of the Geohot site is now gone.

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# Digi_PI 2011-01-27 23:36
I only have one thing to say to SONY..... And that's the following.

erk: C0 CE FE 84 C2 27 F7 5B D0 7A 7E B8 46 50 9F 93 B2 38 E7 70 DA CB 9F F4 A3 88 F8 12 48 2B E2 1B
riv: 47 EE 74 54 E4 77 4C C9 B8 96 0C 7B 59 F4 C1 4D
pub: C2 D4 AA F3 19 35 50 19 AF 99 D4 4E 2B 58 CA 29 25 2C 89 12 3D 11 D6 21 8F 40 B1 38 CA B2 9B 71 01 F3 AE B7 2A 97 50 19
R: 80 6E 07 8F A1 52 97 90 CE 1A AE 02 BA DD 6F AA A6 AF 74 17
n: E1 3A 7E BC 3A CC EB 1C B5 6C C8 60 FC AB DB 6A 04 8C 55 E1
K: BA 90 55 91 68 61 B9 77 ED CB ED 92 00 50 92 F6 6C 7A 3D 8D
Da: C5 B2 BF A1 A4 13 DD 16 F2 6D 31 C0 F2 ED 47 20 DC FB 06 70

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# SONY BORG 2011-01-27 23:37
It has been assimilated. Resistance is futile

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# Brandon 2011-01-27 23:38
TRANSLATION

You infidel! I hope to die the death of the bites of a thousand camels!

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# House1021 2011-01-27 23:38
i have to ask the most obvious question, and this is directed to all of the people who are against hacking the ps3, or any other system for that matter, and it has been asked many times by many others: if you have a problem with hackers, why the f@ck are you on a f@cking hacking site?

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# SONY BORG 2011-01-27 23:38
Small words from a small being, trying to attack what it doesn't understand.

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# JackieDee 2011-01-27 23:38
For those who don't read Arabic...

"You infidel! I hope you die from the death of a thousand camel bites!"

Interesting stuff, lol.

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# Geofferey 2011-01-27 23:43
If you did some reading you would see that there is a DNS hack that allows you to continue playing online. Just thought you should know that.

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# Geofferey 2011-01-27 23:47
Lol your fucking hilarious mate.

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# Geofferey 2011-01-27 23:49
I guess the guy pussed out. I would'a kept that shit on there until Sony came knocking at the universities door.

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# Pralines 2011-01-27 23:49
Im not too surprised by this, governments biggest goal as of recently has been preventing piracy and anything they can potentially capitalize on for money is fair game

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# theman 2011-01-27 23:52
why? Is he jewish?

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# SONY Agent Smith 2011-01-27 23:57
I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify you hackers and I realized that you're not actually gamers. Every gamer on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding consoles but you hackers do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every game is pirated and the only way you can survive is to spread to another consol. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Hackers are pirates, a disease, a cancer of this generation of consoles. You're a plague and we are the cure.

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# Digi_PI 2011-01-27 23:58
Perhaps we do not know all of what the Sony PS3 is all about, but just goes to show you that we, the community, not assimilates like you, are much smarter. Perhaps Sony should hire people that know what they are doing when it comes to system security than hire some fresh outta college newbies for $30 an hour. At least we know how to think together yet not be assimilates, unlike Sony.

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# tommy 2011-01-28 00:01
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# Digi_PI 2011-01-28 00:02
No, you're way off there. Sony is the stubborn old mule and hackers are the race horses.

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# House1021 2011-01-28 00:08
FAIL

EPIC FAIL

seriously, you have just proven my point. i have bought 4 ps3's in the last year. none of which i purchased because i fried one by running a custom firmware. the truth is, i only ran geohot's fw recently because i wanted nintendo, snes, and genesis games. even more unbelieveable to you assholes, i made my last purchase of the ps3 specifically because it had been hacked for homebrew, which includes emulators for said systems. and if i so choose, in America, having a back up copy of something you legally own through purchase or barter is completely legal. so choke on that, slap nut.

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# House1021 2011-01-28 00:11
if having a back up copy of something you own was not legal, then it would be illegal for places like walmart, target, and best buy to sell computer software that lets you copy dvd's. i think the products are "dvd rippers" and they sell them day in and day out at all major retailers.

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# Ciarararara 2011-01-28 00:12
I don't care about hacking etc normally I'm all for it but not when it is ruining online gaming and possibly causing the likelihood of investment into the development of new games to decrease thereby impacting on my future enjoyment! I have no problem paying for games and I know not all hackers are running them shit hacked lobbies which make online gameplay a joke but those who do ruin it. Completely. I hope Sony wins. I hope they block all ps3s running cfw from the PSN. Hell I'd be happy if they made it that you can run homemade etc but not while online on pSN. Then you can do what u want but if u wanna play online u gotta be legit, buy the game, and actually learn to play it.

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# SONY Agent Smith 2011-01-28 00:14
I hate this place. This website. This forum. This reality, whatever you want to call it, I can't stand it any longer. It's the smell, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it. I can taste your stink and every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infected by it.

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# House1021 2011-01-28 00:15
finally, someone who gets it. hack for homebrew apps, but online legit.

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# House1021 2011-01-28 00:16
yea, we get it: you are obsessed with the matrix

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# House1021 2011-01-28 00:18
so? anyone else want to play? i'm here all week.

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# wtf? 2011-01-28 00:31
And yet, they removed the option of running linux. Nice, that makes a lot of sense.

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# SONY BORG 2011-01-28 00:31
Are you offering yourself to us?

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# CheeseTeeth 2011-01-28 00:33
Thanks for the translation, i don't speak terrorist. lol

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# Omegapsy 2011-01-28 00:36
Look. To all you people who post comments on this, there is a man right now facing serious legal trouble because of something he thought was right. You idiots who keep putting up this "pro Sony" bullshit just need to stay away from this subject and stop instigating fights. There are people who are honestly torn over this (like myself) who just cringe at all this crap you keep posting. Nothing is going to change our minds on what we feel should be done on this. It is not our place to decide how things should go down. Honestly I feel torn over the fact that someone is getting tormented over what could be right. Please I am asking you. Just let it drop.

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# SONY BORG 2011-01-28 00:37
Other os was an imperfect feature, created by an imperfect sony borg. Geohot found its weakneses so we re assimilated it back into the collective.

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# SONY Agent Smith 2011-01-28 00:41
We're willing to wipe the slate clean, give you all a fresh start. All that we're asking in return is your cooperation in bringing a known hacker to justice.

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# SonyLoveandCare 2011-01-28 00:45
How about a big fat NO! I think you might be one of the "does" in temporary restraining order and are subject to the same action. We'll just have to find out who you are!

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# Ricardo 2011-01-28 00:53
Dude can someone just get a gun and shoot all these haters out of here!!!


IF YOU ARE A HATER GET THE FUCK OUT!!! HOW DID YOU GET HERE?

WWW.PS3(HACKS).COM RIGHT???? ITS ALL ABOUT US! GET THE FUCK OUT!!!YOUR NOT GONNA WIN WITH YOUR ARGUMENT ON THIS SITE!!!

JUST GO TO WWW.PS3.COM AND TALK ABOUT US! HATERSSS!

ITS HACKING TIME!!!! =)

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# Brick 2011-01-28 01:17
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# geohot 2011-01-28 01:25
yeah sony is just trying to make him a scapegoat. If you go by the law he is in the right and sony is in the wrong. However this is the usa the law only works for those with the biggest pockets so who do you think wins this??

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# yas 2011-01-28 01:27
maybe after that we can burn some bible with your flags and get even huh

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# House1021 2011-01-28 01:57
i'm offering you my foot up your fat ass

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# Anon278 2011-01-28 02:04
there's another mirror at http://psp.geersgonewild.com

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# Anon278 2011-01-28 02:06
There's another GH mirror at http://psp.geersgonewild.com

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# Jace2k 2011-01-28 02:17
KaKaRoToKS - FYI: I am NOT working on 3.56.. maybe in the future, but for now, I concentrate on 3.55, you either choose PSN (3.56) or homebrew (3.55 MFW)

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# Damien 2011-01-28 02:30
If they were to somehow actually manage to win this would make for a great case of false advertising -_-

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# Gerg 2011-01-28 02:45
And we will piss on your carpets and shove sand in your ass!

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# CheesyTeeth 2011-01-28 02:48
after i fly a few Muslim Airlines planes into a mosque

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# yaboiii 2011-01-28 03:14
i got a bypass for 3.56 fw its simple go to network settings do everything as normal than on DNS put manual then put this in : Primary DNS: 67.202.81.137
Secondary DNS: 67.202.81.137
then do everything else as normal and you should bypass it.
Happy Hacking!

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# Ryan 2011-01-28 03:28
Do it up Geohot. You better win this case.

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# jumpgatecharlie@gmaill.com 2011-01-28 03:31
FREE Geohot!!!!!

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# mer2329 2011-01-28 03:34
you should switch the mirror with this one
https://wdnqg3ehh3hvalpe.tor2w...
it actually has the mirror

the one you have was removed voluntarily following the restraining order

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# mer2329 2011-01-28 03:38
should have mentioned this one has the links
but the source is 404ing and the video is private

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# Baby Mank 2011-01-28 03:50
yeah, george hotz is a jew and his name is Schmulowitz, and by the power invested by the universe he became one of them:
HE-BRO
This is him right here:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1AHDN...
except replace the black dudes with gamers.

WonderShowzen

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# folette 2011-01-28 03:59
I hope geohot gets burned at the stake.

The Linux / homebrew community can bitch and moan all they like, the people who get hurt in this are the majority of users that just want to play games legitimately (hell, it's a gaming console right?). Some soulless geeks who have nothing better to do than get off on hacking stuff inevitably fuck it up for the masses. Piracy always follows when you open up a system like this, there's nothing else to say.

Developers suffer, and thus we do, with more limited software support. Pirate away fuckers, but the day will come when your precious PS3 games dry up. Or you could just cut to the chase and buy a PSP.

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# kancho 2011-01-28 04:04
hi i downloaded lots of ps3 games
now is sony loseing money
fuck no
im to poor to buy games
if i ha the money the tha ill buy the games
but seeing how i wouldnt buy them in the 1st place
sony isint looseing a dime
in fact now that i have games i need more controller
thuse sony is makeing money when i buy a controller
ps. if sony gave us homebrew and a better web browser than who need CFW but seeing how they wont give us what we want
well you know the rest

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# kancho 2011-01-28 04:05
excuse my spelling my keybored is ass

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# mystry 2011-01-28 04:11
i totally agree with you "to all haters"

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# Hulk Hogan 2011-01-28 04:17
Well, you know, MEAN GENE! Hulkamania has done many things thought to be unbelievable. We won the world title from the Iron Sheik, bodyslammed Andre The Giant, taken on former friends and made them fall to the power of Hulkamania.

Now, Sony wants to try their hand at stopping the power of Hulkamania. Big Mistake, BROTHER! You want to release new firmware to ban us from PSN. You want to put serial keys in your games. You want to take Geohot to court? You think that will really stop us?

THINK AGAIN, BROTHER!

Because with the power of Hulkamania, geohot, KaKaRoTo, kmeaw, waninkoko, Hermes, and Fail0verflow, we will crush you. They will hit you with their superior hacking skills while I will finish you with the big boot and leg drop!

With all of the PS3 Hacking community by my side, we shall overcome! Whatcha gonna do, Sony, when the PS3 Hackers and Hulkamania run wild ALL OVER YOOOUUUUUUU!!!! !!

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# DemonD 2011-01-28 04:19
AMEN!

All of the systems I have owned I bought my games for, until I got bored of them and hacked and ripped games. I bought the PSP-1000 when it first released and bought all my games within the next couple years, then bought a 3000 a couple summers ago just to mess with.

As long as I'm happy with the console and feel it is still a strong piece of technology, I will support it and pay for my games. Right now i love the idea of my PS3 "only doing everything" like homebrew, ripping the PIC1.png's off games, and backing up my games. The first two I was happy using YDL before the April fools disaster.

Click my name, check out my site for PIC1.png XMB wallpaper files from tons of games :) MAJOR updates in the weeks to come!

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# yaboiii 2011-01-28 04:23
Geohot is a damn genius.. Anybody that can single handedly crack SONY's software deserves a round of applause.. This isnt about pirating.. SONY is just mad that one man made their entire faculty look like a joke.. haha GO GEO!

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# bradnon 2011-01-28 04:28
that is a friggen classic

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# nad 2011-01-28 04:47
then send another round of usa airlines back at the kkk churches

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# Jeremy Malcolm 2011-01-28 04:55
https://wdnqg3ehh3hvalpe.tor2w..., or http://wdnqg3ehh3hvalpe.onion/ if you are connected to the Tor network, is so far the only geohot mirror that INCLUDES the source. Still no video, though.

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# zak 2011-01-28 04:55
If you let your network traffic go through an unverified DNS you people here must be more stupid than I thought.

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# johnny 2011-01-28 04:55
I am a little Bit perverd could someone develope virtually jenna for the. Ps3? Would be great

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# Alex 2011-01-28 04:59
Hey guys, your wrong to think Sony doesn't make a profit on it's consoles.


"Since the system's launch, production costs have been reduced significantly as a result of phasing out the Emotion Engine chip and falling hardware costs. The cost of manufacturing Cell microprocessors has fallen dramatically as a result of moving to the 65 nm production process, and Blu-ray Disc diodes have become cheaper to manufacture. As of January 2008, each unit cost around $400 to manufacture; by August 2009, Sony had reduced costs by a total of 70%, meaning it only costs Sony around $240 per unit."

If you want more information check the area called Sales and Production of the Platstation 3's wikipedia article, they've also listed sources.

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# jimmy 2011-01-28 05:12
You are all thick if you think this only does damage to sony (the console maker) the games companies suffer far more.

rock-star games and other games companies are NOT Microsoft selling windows to the hardware market where units of windows are sold to other companies and then on to the public (this is why Microsoft still make alot of profit ,games that stay on the shop shelf (directly because of backup launchers and hacking) go back to the games company publisher and then the games company are in deep shit ,thanks to all the stealing you are only making it worse for everyone else ,low budget games that are made fast with little thought are the next thing for PS3 just like the psp.

I have a psp and i know there are some great new games but that was all because sony convinced a few companies to still develop for psp even when it was dead because of hacking.

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# iDiON 2011-01-28 05:32
It's just sad that "the big man" always see money loss in everything that's not according to thier plan.. i myself got 2 xbox360, one flashed for offline play backups, one orig for online play and orig games, chipped Wii, and actually an unmodified PS3, i buy all the games i really enjoy, so i see the hacked games more like tests, if sony and microsoft nintendo and such would stop making so much fucking crap that u should not even call a game, and charge u 60-80 bucks for it, it's just as stupid as buying a untested car,

it makes me sad to see that money is actually stopping people from evolving further, unless u cant make a freaking huge lump of money on it ofcourse..

ive got this to say to SONY, Take it like a man.. its not just GEO that should be blamed, blame all of us for having our own ideas, we have payed for our machines so its ours to do what we want with it,

u can take our lives, but u cant take our freedom...

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# GRiMacE 2011-01-28 05:40
Well sony needs to stop hackers. You say not everyone uses it for piracy, True but pretty much everyone does you hear all these kids "i use it for homebrew" most of that is total bullshit they just dont want to be labled as a pirate, part of the problem, person in the way of console freedom the majority of the News post on these sites are Backup manager this multiman that every once in awhile you hear about a game or emulator ect id say atleast %70 of hackers are pirates. as for sony trying to sort them out..... ya never gonna be possible unless sony comes 2 each persons house checks what games they have backed up and what games the own and issue banneds that way

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# kadabriel 2011-01-28 05:50
sony is breaking the law here in Norway..
shall i sue sony??

Oversettelse fra norsk (bokmål) til engelsk


The removal of Linux support for the PS3 appealed to the Ombudsman.


The old PlayStation 3 model had Linux support. (Photo: Sony Computer Entertainment Europe)
AP follows
PlayStation 3
When the PlayStation 3 was launched had computer support for users to install and run Linux-based operating systems on the system. This was a much publicized feature, and many PlayStation 3 buyers has said that it was a decisive factor in their choice of console.

In last spring, however, feature removed, via a downloadable "update" to the PlayStation 3 Then, all customers who still wanted to use the function told that they could not install the update. The problem is that by failing to update the system lost customers to log on to the PlayStation Network, which is another important feature for the console. New games usually have a need for the latest version of PlayStation software to run.

- Obvious violations of the Marketing Act

The result was a lot of angry customers, such as complaining to the Consumer Council. They have now gone through the terms of use for the PlayStation 3, and found that Sony marketing violates the law in Norway. Consequently, they have complained about Sony the Consumer Ombudsman.


Consumer Council Thomas Nortvedt Sony believes violates Norwegian Marketing. (Photo: CF Wesenberg / Colonial Haven)
- Sony gives itself the right to modify or remove features of the game console of their well-being. We consider this as an obvious violation of the Marketing Act and not the least of trust between producer and consumer, "said Director Thomas Nortvedt the Consumer Council on the organization's website.

He continues:

- When the Sony via the web link to the game console can remove significant properties under the deck that this is an update, so it shows how poorly made the digital consumer actually is.

The Consumer Council's complaint to the Ombudsman, which you can read in its entirety on their website (in pdf format), they write the following:

- Despite the fact that the nature of the products indicate a degree of wiggle room, there must be a limit to what can be considered reasonable changes. After the Consumer Council's view must be conditions permitting changes à la "update 3.21" under recognized pursuant to the Marketing Act.

In Norway, PlayStation products distributed by Nordisk Film Interactive. When we contacted them for comment, we were sent on to their lawyers, who also had something to say.

- We are in no position to comment anything on this, "said lawyer Anders Wagle at Haavind to Gamer.no.

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# House1021 2011-01-28 05:57
lmmfao

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# zak 2011-01-28 06:01
Actually I'm just here for the laughs when consoles get bricked or Geo gets sued. And it's always funny to see people trying to defend hacking the PS3 when everyone out there knows it's 90% about piracy. You can brag all day about digital freedom but in the end all this does is harm the games you love to play.

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# boblog 2011-01-28 06:12
Well said, the man wont keep us down ever, they might have the money but we the people have the true power.

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# DFennec 2011-01-28 07:15
Go fuck a stump you cunt

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# Ps3eazy 2011-01-28 07:20
your right but YLOD is not hardware (well so sony says ) related if you check the facts it usually happens from a bad firmware update

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# DFennec 2011-01-28 07:25
Alright I'll give you that much, but is playing a few retro games on your console such a bad thing? Really? What pisses me off about you is your attitude that everyone who installs homebrew is a pirate. I haven't got a single goddamn game backed up on my console, reason being hard drives don't grow on trees and I'm careful with my media. I just want to be able to play some oldschool stuff once in a while. I really have to ask, what the hell is so wrong with that? I don't cheat, I don't hack COD or whateverthehell servers, I buy my games. Back off on those of us who just want some retro stuff, stop being such a prick.

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# master-lex- 2011-01-28 07:27
there is no mirror anymore...

1/27/2011 Update: Judge Illston has granted the TRO against George Hotz despite the venue issue still being contested by Hotz's attorney. And I'm out of town. Since CMU has a west coast campus in California and is therefore potentially subject to Judge Illston's jurisdiction, I have disabled my mirror until I can get back to Pittsburgh and look more closely at the current state of things.

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# doog 2011-01-28 07:29
@ Zak=doog is going to make the next ps4 called the ds4 and all you bitches can hack it, burn it, root it,and copy all of the games. and you know what, i will still feed a third world country for a year with all the profits i make instead of feeding a fat wanker sitting on his ass thinking how to ban all of us bitches (and dont give me that crap of, i dont back games up cause, that is shit you would'nt come on here if you werent looking for something for free i.e geohot 3.55, did he charge you for it. no bitches so cut the crap and vote for the people this time, its not for sony its for the whole world, support geohot (u got 4 free 3.55 )and look out 4 the ds4 (sorry sony but i will be buying a fag box 360 unit until the ds4 comes out)and Zak u are a noob man if you have nothing better to do then slag us off then i tea bag you my good man.......DS4 ps Zac your ban for life already on the ds4

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# iDiON 2011-01-28 08:08
Ur just like every other hater out there.. look at it without the money involved, im no hacker but i do know one thing, and that is that without the hackers/coders and people who actually use thier brain without profit in mind, we wouldnt have gotten this far, not even the internet would exist, the thing is,
The problem is not the hackers, because they represent the will of the people, and if the console giants dont wanna listen to the people, the people wont listen to them,

this thing with GEO is just like with piratebay here in sweden. u cant stop sumthing like this by scare or intimidation, the laws are only there so that the already wealthy people can triumph and beat their chest after winning a trail by buying off the judge aso,

the problem is not the hackers, the problem is that the giants really think they can do as they want, not as the people want, its like this all over the world, if all ya small-minded idiots, if i may say so, that cant see that hackers and coders are our future then u really need to look up sum facts, and read sum history, i can agree that sum hackers use their skill on wrong kinda stuff but this is not it,

for the people!..

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# chico 2011-01-28 08:24
most game on the ps3 are violent,not that many good kid friendly games on the ps3. Sofor all the money i spent on the system and extra controllers. i believe this pays for itself. if sony came out with good kid friendly games i wouldn't think about hacking but paying so much for crap games(like wii) go hack!!!!!!!

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# Shortcut 2011-01-28 08:40
I have the geohot jailbreak file but i will dont make a mirror..

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# SmallOne 2011-01-28 08:55
Someone should get China to put a restraining order on sony to prevent them from putting out future "security updates" After all, they own most of the US, and even being a communist nation, respect free markets and freedom more than this nation infected with scum bag lawyers.

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# Omegapsy 2011-01-28 08:59
Here. I am going to host the geohot jailbreak. http://www.mediafire.com/file/...

Have fun.

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# zak 2011-01-28 09:14
@doog: Well, I pirated games back in the PS1 days, even released stuff myself, then I happened to realize that it's the dumbest thing ever to sabotage your own hobby. Since then I'm following whatever is happening around the "scene" (what you call scene nowadays is 99% people wanting to get stuff for free). I was really glad that Sony managed to keep off the warez douchebags for so long and I'm still glad about every PS3 bricked, every dollar Geohot is sued for and every PSN ban that may come.

And about that third world crap in your post. Seriously man, you have your consoles and wasting our natural resources by eating meat and getting your energy from fossile sources. This is how most people are, not giving a crap about something and that's also why they pirate games, because it's so convenient and cheap.

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# rg7cable 2011-01-28 09:17
I agree with everything said here so far except that idiot ZAK.Good luck GEOHOT...Hope everything works out for ya.

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# zak 2011-01-28 09:45
I won't even say you are absolutely wrong. Good has come out of people who want "freedom" (which is an abstract concept in itself). We got Linux, we got Firefox, we got open platforms like PCs, OpenPandora, Android and the likes. It's not like there aren't alternatives and if a company decides it's their business model to have a closed system it's just as legit as having an open platform.

And if you're thinking of the world is that all companies are evil and all consumers need to be protected from them your view of the world is pretty one-dimensional.

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# isupport 2011-01-28 09:57
My little mirror LOL:

http://pastey.net/145487

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# Ghostman 2011-01-28 09:59
Sony should be sued in every country in the world. What they do with f...ing "security updates" is against the law in almost every country (they remove features that were the reason to buy a PS3 in the first place).
We should all protest agains this multi-millionaire company that thinks they can do anything by not buying any sony products at all and see if they can survive without the average consumer.

About the PS3 and all the crap surrounding it's updates, they took out Other OS (wich was one major reason for the most of us to buy a PS3) they keep coming out with updates that don't update sh*t, i'm pretty sure there'll be one update someday that will remove the ability to update via USB very soon and new games keep needing those same updates to be played. So If that ability was to ever be removed, if someone that doesn't have their PS3 connected to the internet won't be able to install the newest updates from sony and that being said they won't be able to play any games at all because they will need those same updates to work, making their $400 investment completely useless.
We all bought our PS3 out right, we did not rent them from Sony so it belongs to us completely and we should be free to do with it what ever we feel like (even if it's to throw it agains the wall or something like that).
If you buy a couch for example, you don't see the manufacturer coming to your house and perform a "minor security update" and remove the cushions from it do you?

Enough said, geohot YOU RULE MAN, keep up the great work and I hope you win in court (cause outside the court you've already won when you acomplished what Sony thought was impossible) and I hope Sony has to pay you a BIG BIG lump of money for the inconveniense that they caused you. I hope the judge isn't easely bought and forbidens Sony from coming up with updates that don't do sh*t and makes them not limit the games to a certain firmware version (new games should work even on firmware 1.5).

POWER TO THE PEOPLE.

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# zak the fag 2011-01-28 11:05
ZAK the dickless fag. Man, you are full of shit.

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# Dave 2011-01-28 11:12
So if geohot looses not even the federal gov't can even open a ps3 up and inspect whats in it(files etc),even if it had a bomb because they would be circumventing it....

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# daan 2011-01-28 11:18
is this the end of hacking the ps3? comon we need you!

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# SONY Agent Smith 2011-01-28 11:46
Mr Hogan it would appear that you are going to fail, it’s your nature, your being. We have many agents while you are few. We are strong while you, Mr Hogan, are weak. Right now Sony is preparing the ban hammer. It will be deployed against all you ‘hackers, pirates and online cheaters. Do you hear that Mr Hogan? That is the sound of inevitability. It is the sound of your fail. Goodbye, Mr Hogan

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# xXx 2011-01-28 12:09
Truly EPIC comments. lmao!

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# thankakudam 2011-01-28 12:24
We all will will refrain from jail breaking PS3 in an assurance from Sony that the video games we purchased and legally owned will have a life time warranty or provide an update which will allow us to make a backup of our games into the console. Simple! We(?) never want to play any pirated games.......

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# SONY Agent Smith 2011-01-28 12:36
Mr House, Did you know that the first PS3 was designed to be a perfect multimedia consol? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. You hackers would not accept having no access to the 3d graphics. Some believed we lacked the programming skills to create your perfect consol. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their ‘perfection’ through suffering and misery. The perfect consol would have other OS so you could have Linux but your primitive cerebrum kept trying to hack it. That is why the PS3 firmware was updated and other OS removed.

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# Digi_PI 2011-01-28 12:40
Sony Agent Smith, take yer crying elsewhere. No one cares about what you say anyways.

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# AngelusMalus 2011-01-28 12:52
The Mirror seems to be down already...

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# AlexO 2011-01-28 13:04
All I know about all of this; is that Sony took my linux choice away from me. Not fussed about the hacking, always buy my games (never play online). But their update that killed otherOS has guaranteed I won't buy another Sony product as long as I live. Will stick with Ninetendo and look forward to purchasing an xBox.

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# Digi_PI 2011-01-28 13:17
Geohot was the one who decided to post the keys online for his own glory. He could have posted them anonymously, but noooooo he wanted the glory of doing it and telling everyone he did it. Sure, it's wonderful to have the keys and all, but in this day and age it's better to do it anonymously.

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# kc 2011-01-28 13:18
wow... It seems the people who support the hacking are not very intelligent in the economics of things. If Software developers knew the system they were writing for was open to being hacked in a way that could distribute their intellectual property for free, why would they even bother spending millions of dollars to design a game that woul only bring in hundreds of dollars before being distributed freely... Ignorant people. Selfish as well.

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# kc 2011-01-28 13:38
Everyone has the absolute right to do anything with their PS3 as they wish, however, if your tampering can contribute to financial loss, property damge, etc. then your actions would qualify as illegal. Feel free to hack, write code, or throw it against the wall, but as soon as your system changes then you should no longer qualify for updates. When they removed the linux OS option with their update, they gave you permission to not update, but you would not be able to use their PSN. This is actually fair. However, if you compromise your system to obtain profitable software for free, or want to ruin the online experience for the legit players, you should be banned.

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# Dani_Poo 2011-01-28 13:46
Im so angry now! I bet that all the hackers are 2.
But, If Geo wins this, then they can get their payback on sony. Sony keeps making people mad, They should focus on making us happy. I wish that there was a real open console. This hacking stuff is getting harder and harder.

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# Blueboy 2011-01-28 15:07
Sony should be shamed, I have a Vaio laptop and a erricson phone, Is it mine or stuff that sony rents me?
how,do I know what I own?

This is not about hack or piracy. I bought a playstation with another OS function, to use it as a computer --> sony promoted it this way. All gone...

So Sony, FYI, i will install the jailbreak as soon as other OS is avialable again, and I own my "playstation computer" as they call it in court.

another thing, I hope i will not be jailed for having installed ubuntu on my Vaio...

FYI: for your information or f++k you Id++ts

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# Position 2011-01-28 15:13
Good job delegating over a real non issue Sony makes a fortune off of the console market. The percentage of people actually hacking the PS3 and actively participating in piracy is such a small group that it is funny this company is focusing so much time on this issue. The amount of people actually taking the risk to mod their ps3 is such a small group i think that modders and hackers push the genre ahead into unknown territory look at what they did for the xbox in its dying years.

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# Ghostman 2011-01-28 15:33
This is not about piracy. I don't use it and I don't play online, so I don't give a damn. I buy my games.
This is about Sony removing features from a product and that feature made them make the big bucks with the sales.
When i bought my PS3 it had "Other OS" in it and it should stay that way. I'm sure that if the PS3 didn't have that feature when it 1st came out them people would buy some other console that would be cheaper and was "just a console". I bought my PS3 when it 1st came out for $600 and I bought the PS3 because it had other os. If it wasn't for that I would have bought an Xbox360 wich was $250. Now Sony remove Other OS from my PS3 making it more like the Xbox but $350 more expensive without giving me a chance. I had to update or I would not be able to BUY new games. So do you think that's fair?

Once again, this is not about piracy!!! but I do rrecognise the work of geohot as being outsanding.

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# ImmaPS3 2011-01-28 17:08
What's the big deal against geohot? Yes his jailbreak was epic but he DID NOT include a way to play backed up PS3 games from the hard drive, keep that in mind that he left out this feature from his jailbreak release due to piracy. He only allowed you to install signed apps such as emulators and such, which would not hurt PS3 sales. It was the custom firmwares that started rolling out soon after the jailbreak was released that brought upon the ability to play PS3 games from the hard drive, whether it be legit or not. The game managers came from the homebrew community itself, NOT geohot!

I have all the PlayStation consoles and all the PSP's ever made from the beginning until now. I am a Sony fanboy all the way, but even I think they are definitely in the wrong this time around when it comes to geohot vs Sony. I support the homebrew community 1000%!!! You rock! And keep on pumping out those releases to the loyal community. :-D

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# Sudburymods.com 2011-01-28 17:12
I do not play any of my consoles online. So why cant I mod it?

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# tom 2011-01-28 17:15
"If a company decides it’s their business model to have a closed system". We'll they can decide to have such model. But the only way how to do this is to have strong and properly implemented encryption. Sony failed at that. So now they are trying to use law to actually forbid that. In other words when you use the thing you own in other way than it is written in manual we will sue you.

At least for our European law this is complete nonsense. If you bought it you can play games on it, you can smash it with baseball bat, you can open it and you can hack it. And there is nothing Sony can do with that. It's yours.

And for this reason companies like Sony came up with US laws such as DMCA. This does not bring any benefit to people and/or society. This is beneficial only for companies (and lawyers).

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# 10091619 2011-01-28 17:20
i think sony is getting to big for its boots and hopes the little people bring thm down a peg or two lol
funny been watch the scene for years know and have notice sony never cared about the psp witch fell is one of the biggest pirate console yea i know about there hardware change but they never took them to court to counter it

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# Avengerz 2011-01-28 17:32
This shit cracks me up, I hope Sony realizes it's never going to put this fire out. I just read over on psgroove's site that they've issued takedown notices to high up devs like kmeaw lol. Sony the process and your precious codes are already out there running rampant on every would be ps3 hacker in the world's computer you're not getting that back and you're never going to win this battle. The PS3 as it stands is user controlled now, come out with new hardware and quit wasting time and money in courts.

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# zak 2011-01-28 18:19
A thousand apologies to you all. You are all correct I am incorrect, so forgive me. I suck ass (for a living) and I constantly smell like shit. I make lower than average wage, so that's why I have to pirate games. I then come here to take the moral high ground and laugh at people who get banned/bricked, because that's how sad I am.

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# Microsoft 2011-01-28 19:05
Oddly enough, peopel don't have the right to hack their own console, which they paid money to BUY not RENT, and yet Sony has the right to modify your console remotely without your permission on the finite changes they are making, and remove features after purchase.

How about I buy a car from Toyota, and then the next eyar they remotely remove all featurse involving GPS, USB connectivity, Bluetooth, pressure sensors for the tires, and power steering somehow... would that be legal? By the laws sony is trying to impose, it would be.

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# BLKGHOST 2011-01-28 19:13
Still not fair that way. Both OtherOS AND access to PSN were features accessible when I first bought my PS3. I don't see why I'd have to choose one or the other now.

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# BLKGHOST 2011-01-28 19:22
First of all, Sony made a HUGE mistake with the security design. How can you use a constant instead of a variable to generate a signature?!?!? That flaw would've been found a lot more earlier if it wasn't for the presence of OtherOS. They should cut the head of the person who was in charge of the PS3 security instead of geohot. Now, when someone finds a vulnerability in Windows, does MS go after that guy?

Also, why is it legal to jailbreak some devices like the iPhone and not the PS3? The end result is the same for both. And by the way, geohot's patch did not allow piracy. Some other guys works like waninkoko did. They designed their CFW with that goal in mind (I presume).

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# XXXX 2011-01-28 19:26
Not just Sony hear is Nintendos http://news.cnet.com/8301-1350...

And more are coming.

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# sony goooooooo(k) 2011-01-28 19:27
watch out! Greedy Gook with slants eyes are hiring Jew lawyers to have their shyster oriental chinky ways! Gook, gook! Go cook some general tsuo's chink-en! You gook faggots make me sick! GOOOOOOOK!

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# Wayales 2011-01-28 20:21
Too bad whats goin on wth Geo but every revolution has casualties. Its not the end of the road though...

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# Wayales 2011-01-28 20:31
Does the mighty Sony take people to court who watch teenage porn on their Sony TVs? Why don't they make their products not play porn and all sorts of crazy stuff, i mean its globally illegal - so in a way they are promoting porn! Leave us alone sony, we aint killing no one, we just want FULL CONTROL of what we paid for, there are CRIMINALS making illegal BILLIONS with your other EQUIPMENT!!!

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# SHH 2011-01-28 20:33
SHHH! Geohot's website mirrored:

Geohot.net16.net

This is the FULL geohot website, it has every update made to the website, and even has things that were taken away from his site, such as the ps3publictools download.

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# SHH 2011-01-28 20:34
SHHH! Geohot's site mirrored:

Geohot.net16. net

This is the FULL geohot website, it has every update made to the website, and even has things that were taken away from his site, such as the ps3publictools download.

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# Wayales 2011-01-28 20:46
The LAW is very FUNNY, it seams to favor the BIG mighty corporations. Sony should get over it and stop wasting our MONEY, what do they think they'll achieve after all - it's WAY TOOO LATE for recourse. No matter how many people they take to court, the WORLD already KNOWS! TOOO LATE SONY, GET OVER IT!

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# Dustin 2011-01-28 22:37
Sony can do all they want to put out this fire, but in reality Sony is who started the fire. If they would have done their job to begin with, this probably would never have happened.

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# silent_treatment 2011-01-28 23:44
Under the Terms of Service agreement, Number 7:

g. Attempting to hack or reverse engineer any code or equipment in connection with the Sites;

is prohibited. Technically, even though Geo made something amazing, it is still against the ToS which does make him responsible for releasing the code/keys/etc to everyone. Does anyone actually read the ToS agreements? Of course barely anyone does because it feels like a bunch of nonsense but Sony needs to protect themselves and the third party companies from any illegal activities.

You want to have more titles such as Call of Duty, God of War, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, etc.? Abide by the rules and we will continue to see great material. You steal from a store and get arrested, you are going to blame the cop for your screwup?

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# stee 2011-01-29 00:09
whats up all hope the community is well. i was hoping someone can help me here. im having trouble with my external hdd for some reason my slim will not recognize it. its formatted to fat32 and all. when i attach it to my fat 60 gb p3 it reads fine but the slim will not (slim 120gb)can someone explain why this is.

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# SONY Agent Smith 2011-01-29 02:06
You will fail Mr Digi. The ban hammer is being deployed shortly. We will start with black ops and then move onto EVERY online game. It is your destiny to fail Mr Digi.

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# Jeremy Malcolm 2011-01-29 02:54
No it doesn't. It doesn't have the source code. The only FULL mirror is https://wdnqg3ehh3hvalpe.tor2w.... (Tor is a bit slow at the moment because of events in Egypt, though.)

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# Acetone 2011-01-29 04:55
Every one here should know that in the usa money rules all if u have money u can do what ever the fuck u want and get away with it and is bull shit. Not ever one makes millions sony!!! They shuld be treated like ever one else in the world and taking the os off the ps3 is bs bc not ever one used it for bad but where I live we cant get high speed internet so I dont really use psn but they still make u update for certen games and thats not fair take away a shit ton of shit off the ps3 to make people update. Sony grow the fuck up and get real we all love yo u but hate you as much so come on gives your shit back and just ban the cheaters who boost and all that dont worry about people who burn and that bc some has to buy it to burn and then if every one burns shit prices go up and dont think any wants to a system for 1000+

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# Acetone 2011-01-29 04:58
Every one should know money is power u got money then u win thats all this is about and all the woukd is about laws dont mean shit any more just give the judge a mill and u win

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# reply to iDiON 2011-01-29 05:43
Don't listen to zac, kc or that IDK guy there just idiots, and you right because you actually know what your taking about. POWER TO THE PEOPLE.

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# reply to iDiON 2011-01-29 05:45
Don't listen to zac, kc or that IDK guy there just idiots, and your right because you actually know what your taking about. POWER TO THE PEOPLE.

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# Againts Hacks 2011-01-29 08:56
I'm really glad that this dipshit site is getting taken down. You people can't play games so you cheat. Very happy you assholes are not going to be doing this anymore!

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I absolutely agree with this personally. However, to continue using their update system you must accept all the parts of the updates. This is a major flaw I think personally, but it is legally sound.

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This comment is ludacris. They are not condoning porn because you RE ble to watch using their devices. They are just upholding their business model. They do not care if you tinker around on the PS3. Make it a mailbox or use it to crack military code, etc. They do NOT, however, believe you can alter your software and expect them to continue to supply your modded system with new software (i.e. updates, PSN content, games).

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# Alex 2011-01-30 19:46
this would've never happened if GeoHot wasn't such an egotistical asshole. I'm not bashing his work. He does great work, but when you start flaunting it publicly in Sony's face...what would you expect to happen.?

This shit never happened to a lot of the greatest hackers out there, such as Dark Alex, Yoshihiro, and many many others who hacked because they liked the challenge.

I would say GeoHot did most if not all his hacking like a child. "Look, Look everybody look at what I can do."

Hacking is not for immature minded people. I found that out the hard way.

I used to hack my friends gadgets (psp, ipod, GPS) for them but then they always acted like I owed them more. And it gets really bothersome. I see why so many great hackers just up and disappear from the scene.

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however; i do believe that piracy is a crime - copying and selling of copyrighted games. however, i do believe that non-commercial sharing of these games is withing the fine lines of justice. it's almost as legitimate as sharing copies with one another during the old eras of cartridges, floppy disks, and the like.

although, i do believe that sony is in the position of advantage. if they really were losing money with the pirates, they could just as easily stop production and distribution of ps3's and games - leaving the pirate community, including their loyal customers at a loss.

i really don't have a say in this situation; however, i do believe that the longer we keep wanting to play games for free, the harder it is for developers to fund extraordinary game developments - thus leaving the gaming community. we have to admit that the impact of piracy(not to sony but to the game developers) nowadays is not the same as it was before. it has become more and more expensive for developers to produce games that would satisfy the ever so hungry demands of gamers. and without funds from game sales, these game developers would just end up being bankrupt - and we could say goodbye to the gaming industry we have today.
as to sony, they also need funds to support further developments in the business. thus if we want to see more developments in the industry, we should still support our sony in their dealings. the only thing i found that was wrong in their part, was taking out linux support in their system. by taking out this support forcefully through an update, they in my opinion, breeched consumer marketing laws, leaving some of their consumer market who would've only bought the system only for such support. with regards to their security updates in securing the system from piracy and isoloaders, this is just fair game. they needed to protect their game developers, they needed to protect their consumers(from cheaters), they needed to protect their system(from console cloners).

this is a very sensitive issue, which can be seen at different perspectives. i'm not saying that i'm right or that anyone is wrong. i'm just saying my point of view in the situation. i, myself, am still very unsure of my own inclination in the situation.

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