PS3 Firmware 3.21 Coming April 1st; Removes OtherOS Feature!

Submitted by greg; March 28, 2010

Update: Geohot says sorry...

First off, I want to apologize to all the people who use Linux on their PS3. Before releasing, I weighed the pros and cons, and considered the possibility of an impact on OtherOS support. My logic was this. OtherOS support had already been removed from the Slim(not for technical reasons; I believe it only existed in the first place to promote the Cell for IBM) The builders had apparently no intention of including it in future products. So for the purposes of openness why not release? Not like anything else has(or probably will be) done on the PS3.

And also: Don't update to 3.21...

A note to people interested in the exploit and retaining OtherOS support, DO NOT UPDATE. When 3.21 comes out, I will look into a safe way of updating to retain OtherOS support, perhaps something like Hellcat's Recovery Flasher. I never intended to touch CFW, but if that's how you want to play...

What—is this some kind of April Fool's joke?! Maybe. Maybe not. From the PlayStation [EU] Blog:

PS3 Firmware 3.21 will be available this Thursday. It will disable the Install Other OS feature that was available on the PS3 systems prior to the current slimmer models, launched in September 2009. This feature enabled users to install an operating system, but due to security concerns, were now removing this feature.

Oh man! That sucks. And if you don't upgrade you'll lose the ability to:

Sign in to PlayStation Network and use network features that require signing in to PlayStation Network, such as online features of PS3 games and chat.
Playback of PS3 software titles or Blu-ray Disc videos that require PS3 system software version 3.21 or later.
Playback of copyright-protected videos that are stored on a media server (when DTCP-IP is enabled under Settings).
Use of new features and improvements that are available on PS3 system software 3.21 or later.

Oh man! That sucks even more. - source: blog.eu.playstation.com Thanks for the email, Stuart, Evan and Daniel.

Tags: Firmware, OtherOS, PS3 Firmware Update

im surprised that people still believe anything that comes out of sony anymore. after all the lies and half-truths that come out of their marketing department im not surprised at this move.

on the other hand this could just be a temporary thing, i mean after all it wouldnt be the first time sony has removed a feature from its systems with a firmware update only to re-implement it at a later date.

# _EX 2010-03-28 23:31

If they bring it back, it will be full of new security so we might aswel not have it. It will be no use to use after Sony has their way with it.

# mark 2010-03-28 23:37

SONY ALL THE WORST IF THIS IS NOT A SICK APRIL FOOLS JOKES I SWEAR I WILL SUE I SWEAR U ARE CRIPPLING A SYSTEM I PAID FOR!!!!!!!!!!!! !

# morphix 2010-03-28 23:38

Nooo :(

It's bad enough that 3D acceleration were limited, now removing the entire feature :(

I am hoping it is nothing more than an april fools joke at this stage.

My friend uses the other os feature to use the ps3 as his computer as he doesn't have one.

# Ziken 2010-03-29 00:24

aww...this has gotta be some full of BS lately...what happen to good old fashion OtherOS? when we can rely on it as another computer?

is the OtherOS gonna be exclusive for research and/or military purpose? cuz this would totally sucks. it a shame they haven't decided to dump it or not.

# Geocock 2010-03-29 00:32

thanks alot geofag and your bullshit exploit!!

# dumbshit 2010-03-29 00:33

oh yeah sony is scared now. good luck suing a giant corporation with your public defender. LOL!! let me know how it works out dumb shit!!

# Mike 2010-03-29 00:36

pall of us can sue you dumb fuck @mark count me in
there was nothing in there tos that stated they could remove a feature and then if i dont agree i cant play new games FUCK SONY

# Dave 2010-03-29 00:37

Greg, please answer this the best u can for me. And everyone, for that matter.

Since geohot already made a hello world, do you believe this can eventually lead to CFW? Like, givin time and effort--hard work ? Because I don't want to update my ps3 at all anymore since this exploit was discoverd, and if a cfw is made we would probably install it in the ps3 recovery menu right?

I'm not the type of person looking to pirate ps3 games, just ps2 games since I have a 40gb non backwards compatible system. I'm just looking forward to system tweaks such as in game music, and REAL themes. Do you think this exploit will lead to that givin the right amount of time and study?

# mike 2010-03-29 00:37

sorry morphix this is supposed to be a reply to dumbshit dont know how this happened
but if anyone starts a class action lawsuit i'm in

# -hacks 2010-03-29 00:39

they are nowhere near cfw for the PS3. and an RCO edit won't lead to cfw either.

# Mike the retard 2010-03-29 00:51

i find it so funny that people think they can sue sony for protecting their system's security. i don't care if you get a million people to join your class action lawsuit. they got you all by the balls. either you update or you can not play new games or use their internet to play games. dumb asses. you all were praising geocock and now he fucked you all over. LOL!! so funny.

# Coolbeans 2010-03-29 01:27

Way to go, Sony

# goodbakes 2010-03-29 02:17

Fuck you Geohotz for ruining the Linux ps3 scene, go fucj yourself, as for Sony wel good move, teach that geohotz a lesson!

# mark 2010-03-29 02:29

Your're calling me a "dumbshit" meanwhile you don't try doing anything just shut your mouth you pathetic infant go back to studying and get ready for bed. Let me educate your uneducated pathetic mind. Many users bought this system thinking they could use linux (other os feature) and play games while logging into the playstation network fine without having to be blocked out of anything and was an agreement when buying Sony's hardware and Sony EVEN ADVERTISED THE "OTHER OS FEATURE" to work with ps3 this way and to work with everything else such as gaming online and downloading content from their psn store, if they cripple "other os" by making you update and losing out on one or other features then that is false advertisement and would end up pretty bad on their side. So don't even speak when you have no idea what's going on and have no idea what you paid for (unless you have a slim model ps3).

# sternn 2010-03-29 02:32

Sony is not known for its sense of humor.

My guess is Geohot's shenanigans has Sony's upper management paranoid, and are yanking OtherOS support in a desperate attempt to quash any further shenanigans.

# mark 2010-03-29 02:35

Or has he... What if he manages to find some way to bypass all the firmware updates and like psp just patch/update the main parts of the system to go back online with and not have to worry about updating to Sony's stupid firmware.. yea get a clue child this system and all hardware is made by human and so is the security which means it's never going to be perfect and will be fully hacked to the point...

# mark 2010-03-29 02:40

I hope Geohot just spills out like 20 more exploits that Sony didn't know about and get them working on the ps3 slim especially, that way we could all hack our consoles with or without linux, and of coarse get the full linux running the old school way through hacking instead of the bullshit Sony was limiting us to with the hardware.

# JohnDuke 2010-03-29 04:11

Hahaha... funny... GeoHotz fucked up my itouch and now my ps3 :) ... he's just getting better and better everyday!

# Beatngu 2010-03-29 05:36

Is it legal to remove other OS?
I bought the ps3 they day it came out,fat and with other os,i do not think it is legal to take away other os.

If its not legal i will sue!!!

Is any 1 here good with the law about sutch thinks here?
I dont think its right to first sell the ps3 with other os then later remove it,and the ps3 is still not hacked for isos yet so whats the problem?

I was hoping someday to use the ps3s full power in linux and use my ps3 as a great second pc.
Now Sony is removing other os because they are scared of iso loaders,well fuck them.......

Many of us dont even care about iso loaders!!!!!!!
We just want to use the device we bought at its max and with no restrictions(af ter all we paid for it so why cant we choose how to use it?)

# Tim 2010-03-29 05:40

I'm always shocked at people who blame the researcher. He didn't create the issue, and he's not the one breaching consumer rights. In fact, to exploit this at all would require hardware mods. The fact of the matter is that Sony are freaking out over the possibility that a mod chip might be built for the platform and are reneging on promises made only days ago to consumers because of a vague threat about "pirated" games.

I've taken my PS3 off the network & won't be updating - I bought the thing in large part for that feature. For goodness' sake Sony - the PS3 has been one screwup after another. Marketing was appalling, leading to low console sales. The game supply is weak compared to your competitors because you don't have enough well trained developers for a very different system. Left to itself, that would've improved. With this you'll kill the hobby / student / scientific coder base and reduce developer availability further. No point guarding against copyright infringement when there's nothing to protect.

# studioeng 2010-03-29 05:41

Ladies please, stop with all the bickering! You can take one good thing away from this; Sony has just shat themselves! That's good enough for me!

Bad thing is; no more online LittleBIGPlanet for me :'(

# MRP 2010-03-29 06:14

To be honest, can't really say I didn't see this coming.

# sut 2010-03-29 06:44

haha - other os was always a reason for hackers not to hack the ps3. thx sony... I'm sure an exploit will be available soon.

# popoula 2010-03-29 07:45

right see if we care..

# RJH 2010-03-29 08:22

I currently use PS3 Linux to develop applications for the cell. I'd quite like to continue doing this. Are there any teams, forums or IRC channels I should get in contact with regarding helping find a way to run (soon to be) unauthorised code on the playstation?

# krazyone2006 2010-03-29 08:33

gotta be a april fools joke cause technaclly sony can't pull the otheros system cause they would have to pay alot of back taxes for al those fat ps3's they shipped as PCs instead of game consoles to save from paying a bigger tax to import them places and and from what i read there already in the red and this would just make that worse yes you can sue if you bought a older ps3 for the otheros option because it was a advertised option for the system called false advertisment if they pull it now those lawsuits hold up regardless who you are so ppl do some research before you freak out brother in law is a lawyer and he says you can sue for this if it happens its like apple taking away the app store on your ipod

# Hollywood165561 2010-03-29 08:45

Ok you idiots complaining realise your on a site called PS3"Hacks" right? and your pissed at a guy for ..... wait for it.... Hacking a PS3. How ironic.

# Milan 2010-03-29 08:48

True.. Few years ago, Palm had to reimburse buyers of m130 because they advertised it as having 64K colors screen. It turned out it has only about 60k colors (some tweaking of the LCD they used, I don't remember), so they gave back money to people... I replaced mine, not that the number of colors was noticable, but in the meantime, for the money I paid for m130, I could buy much better Sony CLIE model. :)

# NUNO 2010-03-29 09:33

If they remove the feature i smell a law suite

# Joe 2010-03-29 09:43

It is actually a sort of switch and bait tactic and they can have a large lawsuit against them. This has happened many times before. Just like the verizon lawsuit where they where restricting the full features of the motorola razr. They lost the lawsuit and had to refund their customers. Just a FYI

# Mr Saibot 2010-03-29 10:13

Haha, $ony remove a half-assed feature, if they allowed full control over "Other OS" in the first place then maybe it'll be missed, but the limited nature of this feature will be missed by people who wish they had a good PC.

# Nirvana 2010-03-29 10:38

riiiigghht, so Geohot personally came to you to fuck up your belongings? Or did he hack them via the internet?

# studioeng 2010-03-29 11:05

Thanks for that, I thought I dreamt that fact... I was shouted down before!

# GOD 2010-03-29 11:09

Removing this feature is not going to stop anyone from hacking it, all you need is a good laptop and Linux to do the trick :_) I am sure there is already a workaround in place as soon as this firmware is released. Or if you have 2 PS3's you could use the one for the other OS and the other to play your games and log onto PlayStation network.

# Wellllll 2010-03-29 11:42

Problem is, what you bought can still do otherOS. It just won't be supported by any more updates. So there isn't really any false advertising.

# Thomas 2010-03-29 12:10

What if geohot was counting on this because he has some master plan? GENIUS!!!

# MELBOOGZ 2010-03-29 12:51

I SAY WE ALL GET TOGETHER AND FILE CORPORATE COMPLAINTS AS OF TODAY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PULL IT SO FAST THEN WE CAN FILE A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT FOR FALSE ADVERTISEMENT, PLUS THE EXPENSE OF BUYING YELLOWDOG SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PS3 A FULL REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE PS3 AND YELLOWDOG DISC i WONDER WHAT yELLOW DOG HAS TO SAY ABOUT THIS SINCE THEY HAVE A AGREEMENT WITH SONY TO MAKE A OTHER OS ILL CONTACT THEM ABOUT THAT AS WELL SO LETS GET THE BALL GOING AND DONT UPDATE

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# anon 2010-03-29 13:00

This is clearly illegal.

The PS3 hardware you buy is YOURS not Sony's. You own it. And Sony advertised certain product features in their advertising before you purchased it. Not delivering those features is fraud. Sony will certainly try to hide behind their EULA on the new firmware, and claim that you agreed to lose the feature in exchange for use of their firmware. A central problem with that claim is not agreeing would render the system essentially unusable, ie. you could no longer employ the system for its intended purpose, playing games and movies, which would effectively be retroactive fraud. Basically, Sony can not legally sell an item with one implied contract [advertising+EU LA], and then later alter the contract in their favor. That is fraud by definition. Even if they get out of this claim, it is at least a case of coercion under duress, specifically Sony is coercing its previous customers, who now OWN [as opposed to lease or other nonsense] PS3 hardware, to agree to deactivate features (requisite injury), which were advertised before purchase and included in the purchase price, in order to continue to make FULL[reduced] use of their PS3 (requisite threat). Only Sony benefits from this change, which is a further argument in a legal challenge.

coercion [definition]:

1. The intimidation of a victim to compel the individual to do some act against his or her will by the use of psychological pressure, physical force, or threats.

2. legal - the unlawful act of compelling a person to do, or to abstain from doing, something by depriving him of the exercise of his free will, particularly by use or threat of physical or moral force. In many states of the United States, statutes declare a person guilty of a misdemeanor if he, by violence or injury to another's person, family, or property, or by depriving him of his clothing or any tool or implement, or by intimidating him with threat,

3. legal - declaration of intent to injure another by doing an unlawful act, with a view to restraining his freedom of action, or to compel another party to perform some act that said party is not legally bound to perform.

duress [definition]:

1. legal - In the law of contracts, the use of unfair persuasion to procure an agreement, such a contract is void unless later ratified.

definition source:
http://thefreedictionary.com

--lc

# ant 2010-03-29 13:43

I believe that by doing this sony will awaken a lot of dorment hackers that will be hellbent on cracking the ps3 open wider than geohots moms ass on a friday nite. Its war sony.

# dave b 2010-03-29 13:51

sorry but its rubbish. sony initially tried to patent the ps3 as a computer or multimedia device but were turned down and told it was a "games console" because it played games. there are no saved taxes or anything. this is just a misheard rumour being spread. possibly there might of been a tax break for the universitys and research groups who bought ps3s specifically for using them as number crunchers to help their research. but it would of been the customers who got the tax break. and they will still be able to use the Otheros since they have no need to update.

as to the removal of the otheros option, sony arent stupid. most likely in some very small print it says something like "all features are subject to change without notice at anytime" its probably buried in one of the EULAs or when you sign up for a PSNid.

personally i think it sucks theyre removing the otheros feature, but ive never used it. nor intend to. so i will get over the loss pretty quick. i know nooone who uses it and i doubt the majority of people who own a ps3 use it. there will be a big outcry online just to make a big fuss but i doutb 99% of the people complaining use it either..

# a 2010-03-29 14:02

theres no way sony would remove this feature without their many many clever and expensive lawyers going over the EULA with a fine tooth comb. they probably worded it right from the begining so they can remove any feature they dont like in the future.

they will have this sewn up tight and many armchair lawyers will misguidedly quote some law or other to show why sony cant take it away but end of the day if sony couldnt theres no way they would be removing it. a huge multinational corporation is going to know a lot more about fraud and sales agreements
than some guy sitting behind his pc using the internet.

ive still got my original 60gb ps3 box.. no where on it is there any mention of "other os"

also it clearly says "design and specifications are subject to change without notice"

it also says "the system software included is subject to a limited license from SCE refer to ps3 eula for details"

basically we're fcked lol

# zaper 2010-03-29 14:10

I sure hope this is a April fools joke I have Linux installed on mine with all the classics snes nes neogeo games now going to have connect a computer to my TV to play them Son of B****

This had better be a joke took me week to get all emulators running good
I am not updating my ps3 till I no if this is really true it had better be a joke or Sony's going to be in some real hot water over this.

In fact I hope the ps3 gets hack wide open like the psp did that would teach them a lesson yep and first feature added would probably be a copy to hd menu on the game and movie disc.

I also bet Linux will also get full access to the ps3 gpu and ram witch would make Linux so much faster.

One note don't mess with the Linux community they will find a way to get it working again and in the process end up opening it to be fully hacked this is a stupid move Sony oh and they will probably get the slim ps3 working too.

And yellow dog Linux may also have legal recourse for removing Linux support unless they are owned by Sony.

This had Better be a joke this is not fair to the Linux community period.

# mark 2010-03-29 14:20

OHHH MAN I remember using that thing back in the day for xbox 1 and playing halo 2 instead of xbox live because I had hacked maps !! never tried it for the psp tho..

# Dan 2010-03-29 14:20

But then you can't play game online or blu-ray. That's false advertising.

# mark 2010-03-29 14:25

No my man I mean if it was to still have other os without getting any more updates that would be fine but Sony is getting rid of the feature completely instead at least just leaving it there... That is false advertisement...

# mark 2010-03-29 14:35

COMPLETELY SCRATCH MY LAST POST SORRY I MISUNDERSTOOD UR QUESTION WELLLL I thought u meant Sony isn't providing any more updates through firmware to make the other os feature more stable but still keep ps3 firmware updates coming in but no more updates for other os feature specifically (sorry if that sounds confusing). But still that is stupid and that is what I meant still by false advertising... I said when u bought the hardware the agreement was to do everything on the psn while still keeping and being open to use other os feature with no problems and now we have a problem which broke that agreement on Sony's side and it doesn't matter if their billionaire's heck I don't care if they are any other "illionaire's" in the world that is false advertising and everyone including Sony knows it, not our fault that Sony can't make a patch and simply keep the function but just patch geohot's hack (then again though he did say Sony would have a tough time patching that problem up haha) not our fault all Sony's for not being able to keep their security good not that any manufacturer can because there is no such thing as perfect security haha.

# Thomas 2010-03-29 14:42

I wonder if it deletes any OS you already have installed on your PS3, or if it just disables the option to install any more...

# Muzer 2010-03-29 14:48

There's a point - it might just disable the installer.

Or even if it does disable the ability to SWITCH to OtherOS, now would be a better time than ever for someone to come up with a workaround to allow you to return to GameOS without setting it as default (which I've wanted to be able to do for years) - that way it probably won't be able to get rid of it.

# mark 2010-03-29 14:51

I USE IT BRO I USE UBUNTU LINUX AND TYPE ESSAYS AND CRAP AND USE OLD SCHOOL EMULATORS ON IT !!!

# mark 2010-03-29 14:56

hahahaha omfg @ the geohot comment as much as I personally love Geo that comment has me on the floor XD.

# Thomas Ford 2010-03-29 15:13

Every one start flooding Sony with calls and bitch them out! keep them loaded down and they may back off on the update. don’t think they will but its a form of attack we can take

800-345-7669 (800-345-SONY)

Ask for a supervisor after you yell at the first person, talk to them for a few minutes and ask for a manager. Keep going up the list of command! We have to put our foot down!

# Thomas Ford 2010-03-29 16:20

This is not a joke, i called 1(800) 345-7669 (sony help line) and they told me that it was due to the end of the contract with YDL and they also have too many returns that were messed up by linux. I say this is bull shit that they are going to do this. We need to keep them loaded down with calls and fight this a diffrent way. If they get enugh calls they may re think the entire thing.

1(800) 345-7669 (800-345-SONY)

# arty 2010-03-29 16:22

There are several recent legal precedents regarding the enforcability of EULAs and software licenses after purchase, which specifically apply to this kind of case in a way favoring the hardware/software purchaser. Setting that aside, you're right that Sony has lots of lawyers, and has likely considered being hit with a class action lawsuit they are likely to lose. Sony is likely thinking that by the time the suit is resolved PS4 will be on the way, and the whole issue will be moot.

About Linux on PS3, Sony advertised that feature before they even launched the console officially, whether it is on the box or not. They even recently publically claimed they would not be disabling this feature for existing users (slim PS3 lauch). In the US, it is required for product claims to be reasonably accurate, and a manufacturer cannot change product features after you buy an item. This is because they no longer own it, and they need permission to alter the product from the owner. EULAs probably won't let Sony win this case, but lack of legal challenge definitely will.

# Shewgenja 2010-03-29 17:45

LMAO at people blaming Sony for this. This is Geohots doing, so i guess it sucks for the 0.01% that actually uses the thing. If i was Sony i'd remove it as well especially after the whole PSP incident.

Also laughing my ass off at the people who say they are going to sue LMFAO. You forget, YOU'RE the one that hits the "i agree" button on the firmware update, want to keep "other os"? well you're not playing online :) ROTFLMAO

# mark 2010-03-29 18:14

AHAHAHAH @ THE UPDATE BY GEOHOT, YES I WAS RIGHT SEE I TOLD YALL GEOHOT ALWAYS COMES THRU LET'S FIND A WAY FOR CFW, F SONY !!!

# mark 2010-03-29 18:21

YES WHAT DID I TELL U, LOOK AT THE UPDATE BABY MY BOY GEOHOT IS GONNA ROCK SOME SONY SECURITY BIOTCH !!

# Chris12181337 2010-03-29 18:22

Im just doin this for fun cuz their assholes they deserve it!

# NeCrom-X 2010-03-29 18:33

Thanks for ruining it for the rest of us whoever released that hardware mod that disabled the Hypervisor...

# NeCrom-X 2010-03-29 18:35

Should of read up one post yea Geohot thanks a lot I actually used the Linux side to learn Cell programming.....

# NeCrom-X 2010-03-29 18:37

Good question but I would think it would take out the boot to otheros option too not just the install otheros one.....

# Thomas Ford 2010-03-29 18:40

haha thats why i started it but really did not get any where. i just wish we could flood them with calls to piss them off! =P

# omnipotentidiot 2010-03-29 19:10

I still dont believe this is true, just due to the fact that its being released on april 1st,and to GeoHot,dont apologize for a god damn thing. Your hacks have increased the sales of the devices you hack so these companies should be paying you for your exploits. If the ipod touch was never jailbroken,I would've kept my zune instead. If you haven't made an effort with the PS3,I would've bought a slim from the store.

Fuck all these little faggots for hating on you because they think that there precious little ps3's are going to be bricked,you dont see them getting off of they're dead asses and doing what you have done. I've had 3 360's modded and banned from xbox live because i was caught,but I knew the chances and took it but I didnt curse the people that made the flashes possible.

Now bring on the 12 year old flamers, I'll attack every one of you little cocksuckers !!!!

# me 2010-03-29 19:26

Sony is just making me buy an Xbox...

# hotshot247 2010-03-29 19:56

I am familiar with the laws and yes, it is legal because it was made by sony so technically, even though we bought it, it's technically still their system because they made it so they can do whatever they want to. It doesn't say anywhere on the Disclaimer when you update firmware that they are not allowed to add or take away from the ps3. all of the dumbshits who think they even have a chance at a lawsuit, go ahead and try. they will laugh in your face no matter how many people back you up, sony has a disclaimer which basically (in lay mens terms) says that they can do whatever they want and we just have to deal with it.

# Matt 2010-03-29 20:05

Okay since alot of people are bringing up Sonys terms and conditions ide like to point out that they can write what ever the hell they want but that in no way means its LEAGAL. Ill be damned to hell before let my rights as an American to be protected from false advertising be stepped on by a little bitch company like Sony. If they actually do this they are going to be looking at a serious case. Maybe not by the people e-raging here but there are firms that nit pick the shit out of everything a big corp like Sony does in the hope that they screw something up...like this

also for those arguing the just dont upgrade and stop bitching they advertised it as being a versatile platform able to do ALL the various features the system has. its not just whenever they feel like letting you use it. if they say it has other os and online play they cant make you chose between both features ALWAYS have to be there. well theres my rage lets hope for the best lol

# Josh 2010-03-29 20:20

I highly doubt there have been significant sales increases for the ps3 because of GeoHot. IF the Other OS feature is the main threat to piracy and hacks why would you buy a slim that doesnt come with the Other OS feature to begin with? Or are you trying to say you bought a slim to go along with your fat that you want to hack?
Hacks to the psp helped the hardware sell, but it killed game sales and as a result killed developer interest in the console.
People are upset because they feel the Other OS feature would not be going away had people stayed away from trying to exploit it.
The calls for legal action are horse shit. You arent required to update. You can have your Other OS feature, but you forfeit the right to connect to a service sony provides. If its legal to require the current firmware to connect to the PSN then its legal to require 3.21 to connect to the psn.
Otherwise some retard with a blind hatred for 3d can sue sony for requiring the future update that adds 3d to the ps3.
So im here calling out the ps3 hack community. You were given linux and boundaries were set. You crossed the line and got your hand slapped. Wear it.
I hope you didnt curse Microsoft for banning your 360s. As you said you knew the chances.

# Shewgenja 2010-03-29 20:21

No they don't LMAO

The only way Sony could be sued over this is if they 'forcefully' removed it in an update, but they're not, you're agreeing to have it removed when you update to go on PSN, NOWHERE does it say that once you buy a PS3 you have the right to unlimited terms free use of PSN, Sony LETS you use PSN as long as you AGREE to the TOU!. Sony is not forcing anyone to update, simple as. You are the one that hits "I AGREE" at the end of the day.

If you want to keep other os simply don't update :)

# Shewgenja 2010-03-29 20:27

Hahah nice. I agree 100% It does sucks for the 0.01% of people who use other os, but it's the people like geohot and the people on these boards who are too cheep to buy games that are to blame, not Sony.

If these people hadn't been fucking around with it, the feature would still be there. Simple as.

# Josh 2010-03-29 20:27

Clearly you must think Sony made this decision on a whim with no thought of legal repercussions. If terms and conditions wasnt legal why would they take the time to write them?
By your logic I should sue them because the advertising is "It only does everything." Well it doesnt make my bed, go to work for me, or offer me eternal salvation. Wouldnt those be included in everything?

# mcdull 2010-03-29 20:45

I don't understand why Sony should be panic when popular modchips scene didn't kill PS2, Xbox or Wii and the fat PS3 has been phrased out from the market for some time.

# Shewgenja 2010-03-29 20:56

Maybe because it pretty much KILLED the PSP.

# Blaine 2010-03-29 20:57

If I bought a Toyota and 2 years later they wanted to remove the gas pedal as a 'Safety Concern', I would use, wouldn't you?

# Pissedoff 2010-03-29 21:47

This is bullshit. I have at least 50 hours of troubleshooting , updates, additions on my linux. My real computer shit the bed, and this is what I use. I even have wireless internet running >=-O. This is the biggest pile of HORSESHIT i've ever heard. I am never updating. Fuck sony and their gay antics. I hope there is enough people agaisnt this obnoxious change, for them to change there minds!!

# Pissedoff 2010-03-29 22:06

No biggie anyway, I'll just back up all my data, and get a a ps3 slim. Then use my Fat for linux and movie storeage. Then continue they get some lawsuits for this.

# Shewgenja 2010-03-29 22:46

But you are giving them permission when you hit the "i agree" button ;)

# _EX 2010-03-30 00:00

But if sony has said that you are able to use all of its features it has, then they cant make you choose whether you want online or otheros.

# anon-man 2010-03-30 01:17

@god: who would buy two ps3's? one just for other os? damn it was a good idea at launch in 07 but now u can get more hertz for your buck with a pc, u can even put linux on a partition in your windows pc (WOW)... if i bought 2 ps3's, it would still be to play games... so i still lose a function for nothing...

who thinks like me and says that geohot should have kept it secret and wait till it can boot cfw? or isos? then sony would have paid big bucks for their fail and the ps3 would have died because of poor software sales and... uuhh wait... nope. fine by me, did u realize that it's the best console out there (except in sales lol), that awesome games are coming out, and it's still not hacked... that will be a good point in the long run!

more cash for sony and publishers, means more great games down the tube. if you think that your other os is more important than games, step aside loser, i want to be right under the tube so good stuff falls on me and my ps3.

linux work way better on a real computer anyways no 3d graffx limitations, full ram, etc. and now cheaper...

still it's sad that legitimate use will be stopped.

ONE QUESTION THO...
what about the partition that was made for ubuntu or yellowdog, will it be attributed to the ps3 or will it be lost in there, forever blocked by sony???

Hmmm...

# joseph 2010-03-30 01:24

gay gay gay ps3 is turning into a limited gaming cosole.so much for it being a pc

# anon-man 2010-03-30 01:29

sorry but i forgot something...

SONY FUCKIN LIED TO US AGAIN!!! 2 WEEKS AGO I READ THAT THEY SAID THEY WOULDN'T REMOVE IT!! damn... we really don't matter to them, do we?

but then again, i don't use it lol...

sux 2 b u! (other os user)

other os would have led only to piracy tho... no matter what everybody tries to say... the only good homebrew is stuff that u can do on your pc (well worth it on a psp since it's portable but not much worth on a stationary console, just turn your pc on and plug it in your tv...)

# Dr.Death 2010-03-30 02:13

PS3 is becoming another M$ Xbox console

# Chris12181337 2010-03-30 03:24

for sure dude i would so totally do that haha yo add me on psn Cristian1218

# demon007 2010-03-30 03:51

Just as i thought SONY SUCK MY BALLS money grabing mofos, god of war 3 still rocks tho :)

# gildedlink 2010-03-30 03:52

not true, in fact many attributed the ps3 remaining unhacked for so long to the fact that OtherOS was available in the first place.

# johndukedoglover 2010-03-30 04:45

he did it when i broke up with him last summer....

# Shewgenja 2010-03-30 07:02

Yes they can. Like i said before, you have NO right to PSN. They could pull PSN in the morning if they wanted too and there's not a damn thing anyone could do about it. Sony LETS you use PSN provided you AGREE to their TOU, simple as.

If YOU chose to give up other os to use PSN, then thats on you ;)

# GeoHotz Mom 2010-03-30 08:34

GEORGE HOTZ DELETE THAT COMMENT RIGHT NOW YOUNG MAN!!!

# Lol 2010-03-30 08:43

As soon as you called people "faggots" you lost all credibility because that shows how intelligent you are. You have to name call just cause you want an argument not because you know what you are talking about at all.

You know how many people have actually jailbroken their ipod. Not enough that I can go to any person on the train ask 20 of them to see their iPod and maybe only one out of those 20 have a jail broken one. Same thing with the PSP I have a hacked one but everyone I randomly meet usually doesn't.

I just needed the Linux side to use the Cell SDK but I still want to play my games online when I'm using my PS3 for games. Hackers now a days are doing things half assed you don't release an exploit to the public until you can do something with it that would allow CFW or ways to bypass stuff. You could of had a fully functional hack without Sony interfering and messing with what others do on the PS3 legitimately.

But now people are going to wait and hope that someone figures something out. You won't be playing new games for at least a year or two because you had to not update waiting for a hack. Then when it does get a hack you gonna get your PSN banned like your 360s. Who buys three and keeps doing the same thing over and over to them? I got burnt the first time I did this...I'll try it again....Ouch that burned again hmmmm maybe the third time I won't get burnt. Your so smart...

# GeoHotz 2010-03-30 09:40

Mom, you're always breaking my rulez. I told you not to talk to me when i'm with my friends from the internetz. This is just as important as my "Don't come into my bedroom when i'm using the vacuum cleaner" rule.

And i keep telling you it wasn't what it looked like, the vacuum cleaner was block and i was just trying to clear to blockage by poking it with my willie, nothing more.

# Dave 2010-03-30 09:43

Ok so, wasn't my last prediction in the last post that said other os would be removed right now?? I happen to remember certain people telling me I was wrong. Nice to kno I was right. You can't sue Sony because before you update, you need to accept the terms of agreement. And if the terms state that other os is removed and you just click accept without readig it like we all do, it's all your fault not Sonys so have fun looking dumb in court. :) and if this is an April fools joke, then I guess I'm wrong.

I really wouldn't be surprised though if they take it off. I mean, the slim doesn't have other os.

# DJ 2010-03-30 11:14

Not to defend Sony (because I personally entertained the idea of using linux on the ps3.)

But taken directly from their PS3 EULA:

"You may not use, make, or distribute unauthorized software or hardware in conjunction with PSN, or take or use any data from PSN to design, develop or update unauthorized software or hardware, including but not limited to cheat code software or devices that circumvent any security features or limitations included on any software or devices."

"Except as otherwise provided on PSN, all transactions are made in the currency of your country of residence. Features, specifications, prices and content are subject to change or withdrawal at any time and SCEA does not provide any refunds in the event of a price drop, a subsequent promotional offering or content removal"

I am not a professional with contractual law but I think that is an agreement that implies relevance to OtherOS.

# NeCrom-X 2010-03-30 12:00

Don't forget it backs up your Linux partition so it will take up space on your slim HDD and you won't even be able to use it....

# evolutiongsr9 2010-03-30 12:16

I love my ps3 and will always love it unless the new one is cooler hahahahaha

I love sony more and more every day!

GO sony?

# D-E-E-F 2010-03-30 12:23

FUCK YOU SONY
wat the fuuuck happend ???

# kidssuck 2010-03-30 13:12

I am so sure that you intended to pirate with your iPod touch (NOT iTOUCH) and PS3. Stop whining kids.

# DEATH187 2010-03-30 19:50

I take pleasure in the fact that Fuck Face (SONY) knows there is a great possibility of something being found out about the PS3 other OS feature and are shitting themselves. Taking the feature will only make people like me find a way to hack the PS3. I was very happy with my PS3 until reading this shit today. Little does Fuck Face know that their actions will only make things worse for them.
Don’t be pissed at GeoHot, he only pave the way for shit to go down.

If Other OS taken out on 1st April 2010, the PS3 will be Hacked!
Like I said, I feel sorry for Fuck Face.

# omnipotentidiot 2010-03-30 22:12

how gullible are you people? firmware 3.21? 3-2-1??? on april fools day? of course this is bullshit,this is a joke ( a bad one at that) so stop your crying !!!!!

# Pope Wayne 2010-03-31 01:27

I can't believe this shit! How can Sony make such a big fuss over a simple tweek? It's not like Geohot went and made it so every PS3 will self-destruct at once. I understand it's due to security but I think this is too far.. What next? Are they going to remove the Patapon 2 demo due to the exploit?

PS3 Update 3.21 POPE WAYNE DISAPPROVES!!!! ! >_<

# Dylan 2010-03-31 01:29

they never advertised the OS feature so thats not going to work

# Dylan 2010-03-31 01:34

lol ya now they have a real excusse to disconnect the OS so they dont get hacked and lose milions and u think overloading the phones would even make them consider not removing it...... good luck with that

# Dylan 2010-03-31 01:37

they r not crippling the system this is Nothing your just mad u cant Rip games n use emulaters.ect

# Dylan 2010-03-31 02:01

Reply 2 Mark:
Your retarded, they never advertised os not on box's or commercials and did you ever think sony has triple checked there contracts??? they weren't like hey lets remove OS and not consult our lawyers. The fine print states sony has the right to protect the company and or there users. have fun in court waste $500 when u could just buy another ps3 for $150 of craigslist don't tell me im wrong i am a lawyer .... actually hire me ill give you the dipshit discount

# robert 2010-03-31 03:35

i find this funny people moaning about ps3 linux.....get a grip not end of the world, if you really wanna play emulators buy a psp 2000 and hook it upto ur tv or dingoo a320, if u need a pc you can a old system for for around £50 now and install linux prob alot more powerful than ps3 other os.....and for folk saying there gonna sue...please read you paper work

# Ant 2010-03-31 05:20

Cedric Winkleburger

# Ned 2010-03-31 07:07

soooo.. does this mean this update will take out OtherOS from phat Ps3s too? or no?

# Ed 2010-03-31 17:13

Not sure about phat ps3's but yes to fat ps3's.

# studioeng 2010-03-31 17:45

So, will my obese PS3 be affected?

# Mexican_Beanner-23yo 2010-03-31 19:04

Hi everyone...i just want to say i really want homebrew in my ps3..i dont care of copied games or any other hacks just (homebrew)..i bought a 640gb hdd and i was planing on storing all my roms there and media stuff..well atleast that's my intention :-)...i for one..i will not update my ps3 in hopes that a hack will be made in the coming months after the stupid new update..i am being hopeful..i know i might sound silly to some here but..i rather be hopeful than just be complaining and being rude to people,and to the hackkers out there that are doing their best to hack the ps3 thanks alot for all your efforts, i really appreciated it...i hope to play my mame and snes roms in my big screen with my ps3 one day..until then i will be patient

# jumpgatecharlie 2010-03-31 19:20

ill just buy a slim ps3 and store my phatty away till something comes up

# Chris 2010-03-31 19:23

Good job Sony, this is the last product I ever buy from you.

# DeadPoo 2010-03-31 22:14

YES!!! Let the RAPING begin! I will never ever buy games on ps3 again and this is probably the last time i buy a console from SONY. Isos here i come:). muahahaha.

# krazyone2006 2010-03-31 23:27

just to let you all now the update is for realit's 11:26 PM here and just updated my slim to 3.21 don't see any of the supposid 3-D features they were talking about this adding though so now its up to someone with a phatie ps3 to try and tell us the results oh and read the EULA before you do looks like they added a bunch of stuff about hacking and pirating LOL

# KillaJay 2010-03-31 23:36

Funny how on the PS3 its telling me to update to go online but i cant download it from the website wtf cant log in either

# hnsn oio 2010-04-01 07:09

how they could do this!after three years and half they removing it very easily and no one can open his mouth and say no to them and beacause of the firmaware EULA u accept for it and u cant even sue them.
this is injustice for the normal consumer who use the os functinon and he wouldn’t even think about opening his ps3 and hack it and i realy hate these dump comments that say:go sony,they have the right to do it,i am against hacking and piracy.....,etc.the site’s name is ps3-hacks if u dont like it go away.
finally i would like to say that i am with u willchop;now all of us count on u geohot also we will pray for u..
sorry for my bad english

# LastmanOut 2010-04-01 11:42

Hey Mark if it weren't for your boy Geohot, the Other OS enabled Fat PS3 systems wouldn't be facing the loss of the feature.

# LastmanOut 2010-04-01 11:50

gildedlink

Yes many did attribute the system's unhacked status due to the out of the box linux install option. Too bad that wasn't enough for the open-source freedom fighters lunatics that need to install linux on everything from their stopwatches to toaster ovens.

# LastmanOut 2010-04-01 11:52

Don't you mean way to go Geohat for openning up a can of worms?

# LastmanOut 2010-04-01 12:10

Well in that case you're going to have to use that Firmware by-pass method forever now. Hope future Blu-ray games don't come loaded with Firmware updates either or you're really out of luck.

# hunter 2010-04-01 13:51

I really don´t know because i dont live in a common law system country, but in brazilian juridic system sony made one illegal act (even if it was in the contract)

# Cole 2010-04-01 15:29

ur an idiot dude, I use my ps3 with a studio version of linux, because I do music, and the ps3 is pretty fast, I just plug up my alesis interface into the usb, hook up my mic's and start recording. Never ever hacked anything on the ps3. I still have the box, and the manual, and it does say it supports linux. This is a feature I paid for, for a specific reason, and now I'm being ripped off by sony because of what someone else did. And on top of that, so what he hacked it, they should have known that that would have happened eventually, and had a better way to deal with it than this. I went through with the update not realizing I couldn't reverse it and it was permanent, lost alot of data, it was really messed up, partially my fault for not reading through everything, but the other updates never did anything like this. I love video games, and I love music, and I had both in one box, and because of some stupid childish drama, now I only have video games, which to me, in itself, isn't worth 600 dollars. The sony employees have no manners, they treated me like crap on the phone. This is 100% illegal and for those of you, including the dipshit dylan supposed lawyer, do you see how many posts already are complaints about this? This is going to blow up real big, real soon, it is, in fact, a crime, it violates our constitutional rights, and anyone who hires dylan as a lawyer, ur a freakin idiot lol.. oh, and btw, F U SONY!

# Cole 2010-04-01 15:37

I'm only on this site because google took me here. I wasn't searching for hacks either, I was just searching for information on what in the hell is going on. I'm sure alot of people got here that way. I'm not really pissed at the guy who hacked it, maybe a little, but not really. I am angry at sony though. Instead of trying to fix the exploits, they just punish the whole consumer base.

Check this shyt out.. This affects alot more than the few hackers they're trying to punish. It affects researchers across the world, who have figured how to use the ps3 as a supercomputer for their studies.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab...

# Cole 2010-04-01 15:40

I posted this a couple comments above, but it goes with the last part of your comment about the hobby/student/coder..

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab...

# Cole 2010-04-01 15:44

ya, like me, I wish i had a good pc, thats why i was so excited for my ps3 linux, and those assholes screwed me out of what I bought. fuckin liars

# Cole 2010-04-01 15:48

actually, I think anon, or "the dude behind his pc" seems pretty smart. and just so you know, I know u think sony has this on lock, but other big corporations, just as big as sony, have come against this same exact issue with different products, and lost severely, and yet they still made the decision to do it, thinking they could get away with it. If sony really thinks they can get away with this, they are in for a rude awakening.

# Cole 2010-04-01 15:50

I only hit "I agree" because I was Coerced into doing so. Whether I agree'd or not, I still lost something valuable to me. If I say yes to update, I'm punished, if I say no to update, I'm punished. And where do u get ur 0.01% bs, just cuz ur 2 stupid to even realize what linux is or the power it holds doesn't mean that everyone else is that stupid :X

# Cole 2010-04-01 15:55

I'm not interested in pirating games on the ps3, but I do think hacks should be there, because the fact that its not backwards compatible and I can't play some of my favorite ps2 titles that I already legally purchased, thats bull. Just sayin..

# Cole 2010-04-01 15:59

again, coercion is illegal, I only agree'd because I was forced to, if not, my ps3 becomes a vegetable on the XMB side of things. If they can't be sued, they should be put in jail. if I went and got caught trying to coerce someone out of their hard earned money(example: A FUCKING PS3 THAT COST $600), then I would go straight to jail. Should be no different for the ceo's or whoever made this decision final.

# Cole 2010-04-01 16:00

The legal writing protects them against many different things, but this? no, sorry, not gonna happen.

# Cole 2010-04-01 16:03

srry but its the first now, and it wasn't a joke....... >:X

# cole 2010-04-01 16:11

This is a VERY good post, at least in my opinion, of why what geo is doing can be used for good things.. Not everyone that hacks is into piracy, some people are into creating things.. N E Wayz, Check dis out..

"I understand why you dislike CFW (I'm not going to lie and say piracy is not a problem, I'm a mod on PSP mod forum, and I can not tell you how many people ask about downloading games, despite the very clear rules posted everywhere), however homebrew coders are not all piracy advocates, there are a huge amount of apps that the PSP should have had, but Sony did not jump on (among them, universal IR remote for Fats, a faster web browser that uses ALL the ram of the PSP, a pdf/comic book viewer, and a youtube/flash video viewer application). Now none of those apps are malicious nor in any way piracy, to be honest I don't understand why Sony continues to ignore these apps as if they don't exist. Can you honestly tell me as a PSP owner you wouldn't want any of those apps (don't bring up the Official Sony comic book viewer, it only supports proprietary formats, and has a very limited library)? Open source pushes creators all the time, that's why the PSN has PS1 games for download (as well as digital versions of many PSP games), all of these were "borrowed" from CFW applications. Before you judge my choice to use CFW I own over 40 UMDs, and have had a fat PSP since its North American launch, I made the switch to CFW for more features so I would my PSP more, not for piracy. Anyway the PSP is breathing its last breaths, Sony's PSP GO is an example of their current business plan to remove features and charge more (no UMD drive, and a new memory card type requirement, just to push the sales of the new MSProDuoMini). I hate when companies require all proprietary accessories, simply put I don't know how long you had a PSP, but when they first came out memory sticks were extremely expensive, while they have gone down, for people like me with a huge amount of digital media the sizes are still too small, and expensive, for a 16gb MSProDuo I could get a SD card that's 2x the memory size. Just food for thought."

origional post is here:
http://news.vgchartz.com/news....

# Anon 2010-04-02 14:06

You mean like how Sony had the CD rootkit issue sewed up tight? I find it cute that the mouth breathers vent about Sony leaning so heavily on their lawyers and forget about that little rootkit mishap.

Those of us in the real world that work for real corporations understand this truth: Management will do what management wants to do, stupid/legal or not.

# Anon 2010-04-02 14:08

EULA's are not an end-all be-all statement. You can put in a EULA that you have the right to slap someone's mother, but that doesn't make it legal.

# anon 2010-04-02 14:15

Remember that little rootkit issue Sony came up against not too long ago? Think they ran that by their lawyers? Assuming they even ran this by their lawyers is giving them more credit than they deserve.

# Amanda 2010-04-02 15:10

I updated... How can I downgrade it to 3.15 again?

# Josh 2010-04-02 23:38

Considering the "it only does everything" campaign started after the ps3 slim and the slim doesnt have the other os feature to begin with. I doubt it makes a difference.

Exactly how important do you think Other Os is in making a console purchase decision? Probably not very important considering the ps3 has a browser, free online game service, built in wifi, bluray, easily replaceable HD, and bluetooth yet does not blow away the 360 that has none of those.

The only way this will hurt Sony is if you believe in slippery slope logic that now Sony has taken Other Os they will take other features. But if you are dumb enough to believe in that logic, Id rather you buy a 360.

# Josh 2010-04-02 23:49

Because it allows you to install another OS, play for free online, play blu ray, has a web browser, bluetooth, and cheap upgradable hard drives?
Good luck. See ya.

# Josh 2010-04-03 00:31

Homebrew,hacks, piracy. You get one you get the others. It is inevitable.
The ps3 and the psp are not Open Source. You dont have the right to modify them just because it doesnt have some features you want. I agree that it would be nice if Sony would embrace the homebrew community more with an app store and an SDK. Maybe someday it will happen. But based on the troubles the homebrew/hacking community have had on the psp. I see no reason for Sony to play nice.
This guy wants to give the homebrew/hack community credit for Sony eventually putting ps1 games on the psn. But he fails to give credit to the homebrew/hack community for the PSP Go not having a removable battery due to the creation of the pandora battery.
And claiming the psp go has fewer features is a load of crap. It lost the UMD drive because everyone was critical of the UMD format and claimed they wanted to download their games. At the expense of the UMD drive the Go added a 16gb harddrive, bluetooth for internet, headphones, and controller tethering, and a save game feature that allows you to completely power down the psp to save battery. That doesnt sound like less features.
The mini duo is backwards compatible with ms duo. Its an advancement in the technology. You can use the mini on the regular PSPs with an adapter. Its similar in concept to bluray taking over from DVD.
Also, Sony is starting to allow SD cards to be used on their cameras. So they are opening up to other formats. Just food for thought.

# Lemon 2010-04-03 02:09

Thanks Geohot, thanks a lot. I always use otheros and now i cant, this is pathetic, why even bother trying to hack the ps3 its fine the way it is... god, you hackers make me sick!

# Ned 2010-04-03 22:56

thats weird, the march 1st news said that sony will not remove the OS feature from non slim ps3s. i definitely dont have a slim ps3.

# MadWhiteNerd 2010-04-04 01:02

So, just figured I'd put my two cents in here.

First of all, Thank you Geohot for putting an unfathomable amount of your personal time into getting as far as you have. For those who didn't pay attention, Geo put in just under 4 years of HIS time attempting to find the exploit that he did (I believe the exact time he posted was 3 years, 11 months, and 20-some odd days?).

Secondly, let me just note that I don't endorse piracy for piracy's sake. If you can afford the games, buy them. Personally I've purchased many Wii games in my day despite my Wii being completely softmodded. I actually modded another guy's Wii, and right after he told me he was headed to Gamestop to purchase Mario Kart Wii. I asked why, and he said that Mario Games were collector's items to him, and were worth more unopened later on. He still has his copy unopened to this day, yet plays the game regularly off his USB Hard Drive.

As to the PS3, I personally hope that it becomes hacked. I would love to use the PS3 as a fully powered Secondary PC. I have many neat uses in mind for it once it becomes fully unlocked. Removing this OtherOS feature pretty much kills that. It essentially means I bought my PS3 just to play like 3 or 4 games (the rest could've easily been played on my 360, but I like to keep a balanced collection on all consoles).

Once you pay the price for the hardware, it's yours. Sony can't stop you from doing whatever the heck you want with it. If you wanna use the OtherOS feature it came with to hack, or to record music, or simply to convert and save DVD movies, you are completely allowed to do that.

However, that does not give you the right to use the PSN. Whereas you own your PS3, Sony still owns the PSN, which includes online gameplay, along with your account and your friends list. So, needless to say, it's not a matter of them coercing you to remove the OtherOS. It's just them saying "Systems that continue to use the OtherOS feature will no longer be compatible with our PSN service." It's just like when the servers went down for several PS2 games that were online enabled (Twisted Metal Black Online comes to mind). You got the game because you wanted to play it online. However, you were playing on the COMPANY'S servers. Once the company decided it didn't want to keep the server up anymore, they simply pulled the plug.

So yeah, while it sucks and does NOTHING for Consumer Relations, Sony has every right to do this.

Luckily I don't play games online that much with PS3. The only game this severely affects for me is MAG (which is easily substituted for by Modern Warfare 2 on the 360).

I'd still LIKE to use the full features, but can do without until Geohot or whomever else releases the first PS3 CFW.

So to all those trying to break through that final door, Godspeed!

# Pete_UK 2010-04-04 06:24

The comments here are hilariously deluded. OtherOS was nice, but someone abused it and now it's being removed for all of us. I'm not anti-piracy by any means, but how about you wake up and smell the ashes of a situation hackers created?

# Jason 2010-04-06 02:35

ya, sony sucks, but really it is kinda good news. ow the hackers /coders will play dirty, and the end result will be custom flashes with every possible thing the sony does not want. I can tell you, the otheros with ubuntu has saved my but once when my harddrive in main pc failed. I was able to resume my web editing work until i replaced the drive. Also when my router went bad and only wireless part worked, saved me again. So now i am going to shelf my system and wait fro better days. In the mean time, i got a shiney new softmodded wii to play with. To hell with sony. the wii is better only becasue the ps3 is so locked up like a overprotected, wannabe virgin, slut.

I cant wait until this backfires on sony. I was thinking of buying the new final fantasy too, looks liek they lost otu on that sale. also i have a feeling, that once the door is wide open and the great tool are out and harware 100% unlocked, just as sony fears, the new ps4 and 5 wont hold water to the unlocked hardware of the ps3, which will hurt sales badly. Once it is, just imagine the embarassment sony will have if a smart coder manages to start emulation of ps4 from unlocked and hacked ps3.

# lol 2010-04-06 03:59

ha ha that is a totally on par comparison....since without other os support a ps3 wouldn't be able to "go" right? Retard...but still..you suck $ony, I remember when other os support was announced and how much applause they got for allowing that...

# Marks dumb 2010-04-06 04:06

Wow Mark, I love it when people who know absolutely nothing about the law get mad at other people for not knowing anything about the law. You are a complete idiot, they are within their rights..it may suck but read the tos or eula. So if you want the future updates then you are going to just have to bend over and take sony's thrust...if not they will take away all the shiny toys...and no lawyer you or anyone else can get will be able to stop them...

# Cole's dumb 2010-04-06 04:12

Let me know when anything happens to sony at all for this...they took away PS2 emulation and SACD playback, no lawsuit, no blowup, just minuscule little whiners like you, who i feel their pain, but ABSOLUTELY nothing will happen...and I will bet your two and a half inch penis on it...

# Jason 2010-04-07 01:02

One thing that bugs me, is what if you dont have internet. I imagine some people out there dont have internet, or at least to it. Some games you need to have the update or you cant play? Now say i never had internet, so i would have the original version that came with what i bought, outdated, then i go store and buy a game. the game says its for ps3, but when i get home and it needs an update am i just stuck with something that cant be used? Does it say on the back of disk that a game might require a certain version?
I dont knwo my games are put up somewhere , cause i dont play them, i only use otheros, but just because it can hook to internet should not mean you have to have it for the ps3 to work with all titles. I dont think i read anywhere that the user MUST have high speed internet in order to play the latest games released. If im right, then sony is wrong and a judge would easily see it. but then again, now that it hink about it, i guess they could ship the said update with the actual disk, which is in their right, but is it really their right to refuse you to play the game because you didnt want to take an update that added abilities required for the game? Removing otheros is not a new technology that enabled new games to play properly, so it just seems that the EULA now by judges orders shoudl have to be signed before purchase. What if i buy ps3 and right out of box refuse any agreement? The contract shoudl be the actual sale. I dont recall seeing on the box that im going to have to accept anything in order to play new titles, so not accepting EULA and being rejected without warning thus in effect forcing an acceptance of the EULA shoudl be concidered illegal. I also didnt see otheros mentioned on the box, but it was there, so i effectively purchased it too. So how does sony still have the right to say "You accept New EULA, remove otheros which you paid for as part of the entire package, or loose ability to play all new games from here on out"

Also prolly not the same, but i buy Windows 7 , its not advertise that it comes with firefox, but i get it, then all of a sudden , Microsoft decides that Firefox is a huge threat to Internet explorer, and send out a new update, telling you that I have to remove Firefox or else I can not use TCP Services because that is where the exploit might come from in firefox. So i dont want to loose tcp services so i remove firefox and can never get it back, because after all, it is MS OS right? Or i keep firefox and can not get on the internet, which keeps us safe too. How fast do you think they woudl be sued and for how much? They could not get away with that and i knwo its not the same, but grey areas can go both ways, remember it is all abotu how the judge interprets the contract.

Im confident that this new hack activity will bring us all some new fun and all the emu that most of us want. And sony, lol, in the end we will be laughing at them. Just think to market the next new ps4 or whatever, they can not cut corners, it will have to be one badass system, to compete with a fully open not limited system. But thats assuming the would do otheros in it or similar and i think its safe to say no gonna happen. The guy who made the decision to add otheros in the first place is prolly one of the few too many now unemployed people. lol Corruption always falls?

# ggg 2010-04-16 23:56

i find it bullshit how i installed update 3.21 trusting sony but they screwed me over so now my system wont read any sort of disc and its 150++ IF i want a new one so im shit outta luck cuz my parents wont get me a new one if you have any ideas pleaseeeeee tell me email me at youngswift43@yahoo.com

# Rezzab 2010-04-17 20:46

So I buy a car with a radio. Some wise dude starts broadcasting shit that the manufacturer doesnt like. I take it in for a service and they disable my radio - surely thats not right! FU Sony - Cant wait for the CFW

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